I can second that Dean. I saw the geese sitting there 3 weeks ago. Still doesn't look safe in that area. I was out there last weekend and there are a couple bad looking spots on that lake.Just watch out on the main lake of new johns it was open a couple weeks longer then the other three. From the boat ramp west and the last quarter mile on the east end went down early but the rest didn't lock up till thanksgiving weekend and be real careful a couple hundred yards west of the big island because the coots and geese kept a hole open there for atleast another week.