Just sayin a guy doesn't need to spend a ton of cash to stay warm and dry. I spend most of the winter outside ice fishing, trapping, and snaring coyotes and I highly doubt this striker suit, ice armor, or any of these premium outdoor wear suits would stand up to what I put my Carharts though and they are still keeping me comfortable, dry, and warm after 5 years. That's all. Sprayed the legs of my Carharts with silicone spray and they became waterproof insomuch as I don't get wet kneeling on the ice catching fish or setting snares all day. I don't have the 500 clams to spend on something I use for only one thing. Even if I did I would still probably buy something that I can wear chopping wood, working on the car, crossing barbwire fences, walking through shelter belts, setting snares, snowblowing, etc, etc, etc. My stuff has to multitask to cover as many situations as possible.