Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 53

Thread: Winter kill

  1. Back To Top    #1
    Ultimate VIP Member
    dean nelson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Location
    Bismarck
    Posts
    3,671
    NDA Points
    200,142
    NDA Level
    100
    Report Entries
    12
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 2,032
    Given: 1,981
    Classifieds
    1

    Winter kill

    So any of you guys who have made it our recently seen any signs of it? The way the game and fish is talking it sounds like it's going to be pretty severe and a lot of lakes are going to be dead or at least partially dead but they're still kind of dancing around it for now.

    0 Not allowed!

  2. Back To Top    #2
    Ultimate VIP Member
    johnr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Dickinson
    Posts
    6,944
    NDA Points
    95,191
    NDA Level
    100
    Report Entries
    1
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 8,169
    Given: 6,907
    Classifieds
    1
    Name:  3F414C26-3C07-47FA-A7BA-3DD62F6B8776.jpg
Views: 2665
Size:  118.0 KB
    Patterson lake in Dickinson has sun fish floating in some spots. Didn’t see anything significant

    0 Not allowed!

  3. Back To Top    #3
    Premium Member

    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Location
    Halfway between Bismarck and Fargo
    Posts
    331
    NDA Points
    5,926
    NDA Level
    32
    Report Entries
    8
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 311
    Given: 89
    Haven't been up to Pipestem yet but word is it's near a total kill off. May try and get there tonight to peak around at the landing.

    0 Not allowed!

  4. Back To Top    #4
    Premium Member

    Join Date
    May 2015
    Posts
    669
    NDA Points
    48,971
    NDA Level
    97
    Report Entries
    1
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,404
    Given: 871
    It sounds like they are concerned about Jamestown Reservoir as well. According to the game and fish preseason fishing videos.

    0 Not allowed!

  5. Back To Top    #5
    Premium Member
    FishSticks's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Location
    Fargo
    Posts
    398
    NDA Points
    37,594
    NDA Level
    85
    Report Entries
    6
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 512
    Given: 982
    I fished several spots in Richland County and Stutsman that seemed to have winterkill

    1 Not allowed!

  6. Back To Top    #6
    Premium Member
    Chas'n Tail's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    Northern ND
    Posts
    400
    NDA Points
    8,370
    NDA Level
    39
    Report Entries
    5
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 383
    Given: 1,428
    So a question for the armchair biologists here. How big does a lake need to be to not winterkill? I mean I get it, if we get 6 feet of standing snow in the open and it lasts until mid may, yeah Sak and DL are probably in trouble. But realistically, does it come down to surface area of the lake? Depth of the lake? Jamestown Reservoir is a pretty decent sized body of water in size and depth, right?

    1 Not allowed!

  7. Back To Top    #7
    Premium Member
    ShootnBlanks's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Location
    Alice ND
    Posts
    415
    NDA Points
    80,300
    NDA Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 796
    Given: 264
    Goddamn Zebra Mussels

    7 Not allowed!

  8. Back To Top    #8
    Premium Member
    Lungdeflator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Location
    Berthold, ND
    Posts
    662
    NDA Points
    43,046
    NDA Level
    91
    Report Entries
    2
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 671
    Given: 1,004
    Quote Originally Posted by Chas'n Tail View Post
    So a question for the armchair biologists here. How big does a lake need to be to not winterkill? I mean I get it, if we get 6 feet of standing snow in the open and it lasts until mid may, yeah Sak and DL are probably in trouble. But realistically, does it come down to surface area of the lake? Depth of the lake? Jamestown Reservoir is a pretty decent sized body of water in size and depth, right?
    Nean should know, I expect a comprehensive answer any second now.

    3 Not allowed!
    She was eating cookies like Nabisco needed their bags back.

  9. Back To Top    #9
    VIP Member
    MSA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Minot
    Posts
    844
    NDA Points
    219,166
    NDA Level
    100
    Report Entries
    8
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 2,484
    Given: 446
    Type of vegetation also plays a factor.

    2 Not allowed!

  10. Back To Top    #10
    Ultimate VIP Member
    Lycanthrope's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    Bismarck
    Posts
    2,029
    NDA Points
    61,265
    NDA Level
    100
    Report Entries
    8
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,572
    Given: 2,775
    This explains why I wasnt catching any pike this winter! Guess its gonna be river fishing for me this spring...

    0 Not allowed!

  11. Back To Top    #11
    Premium Member

    Join Date
    May 2015
    Posts
    428
    NDA Points
    11,181
    NDA Level
    45
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 206
    Given: 0
    Doesn't seem to be real predictable as some lakes that would seem to be fairly susceptible (shallow) don't kill much and others with a decent amount of 15-20 ft. water do. I'd imagine weed growth, water clarity, water chemistry (nutrient load) and abundance of fish play a big role, along with of course a fresh water source.

    0 Not allowed!

  12. Back To Top    #12
    Premium Member
    Fisherman25's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Sawyer,
    Posts
    579
    NDA Points
    6,025
    NDA Level
    33
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 300
    Given: 307
    Classifieds
    1
    Crooked lake and long lake in McLean county are toast again. They’ve been floating there since February.

    0 Not allowed!

  13. Back To Top    #13
    Ultimate VIP Member
    Allen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Lincoln, kinda...
    Posts
    2,278
    NDA Points
    28,308
    NDA Level
    73
    Report Entries
    4
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 2,509
    Given: 1,005
    Winterkill is a pretty complex problem but can be simplified a little.

    Once ice cover is on a body of water, sunlight gets really restricted in the water column. Hence, algae struggles to survive, much less thrive. So the dead algae along with any other dead organics begin to decay. Aerobic decay consumes oxygen and leads to the winterkill.

    Some of the trickier parts of how they contribute to the problem are length of time the water has been iced over. Thickness of snowpack, depth of water (more water = more volume for holding dissolved O2 prior to icing over), lots of small things influence this.

    There are parts of Sak where winterkill take place. I've talked with fisheries staff in the past where there have been some issues around Little Knife Bay, so I'm sure there are other places as well.

    This same kind of thing also happens in the summer, but water temp is a big factor in the summer dieoffs. Warmer water holds less O2, so when the sun goes down or gets hidden behind a cloud the rate of O2 consumption by decay outstrips the production of O2 by algae/plants in the water. Granted, this is a much larger problem in places like Georgia.

    2 Not allowed!
    "Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself." Mark Twain, speaking on Congress.

  14. Back To Top    #14
    Ultimate VIP Member
    WormWiggler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Dickinson ND
    Posts
    2,464
    NDA Points
    515,121
    NDA Level
    100
    Report Entries
    5
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 3,556
    Given: 5,305
    Classifieds
    6
    the thread makes me wonder, what if you ice fish and bring an air compressor. Attach a weight to the hose, either open ended or a bit restricted and dropped it down the hole? maybe not the hole you are fishing, or too near, but in general? obviously joe schmoe won't prevent winter kill on his favorite lake, but say you have a permanent with air running 24/7, will it attract fish or dispel them? I also a person has guywhomakesthings skills to prevent freeze up, power supply, and other such commoner issues....

    0 Not allowed!
    I'm here to chew bubble gum and kick ass.... and I'm all out of bubble gum. RIP Rowdy

  15. Back To Top    #15
    VIP Member
    RustyTackleBox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Max
    Posts
    858
    NDA Points
    62,686
    NDA Level
    100
    Report Entries
    12
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 838
    Given: 1,225
    Classifieds
    1
    Sakakawea would never winter kill because it has a little stream flowing into it all year round some have called the Missouri, flowing water brings oxygen into the water even if it's slow it will still oxygenate the water... also lakes that get 40+ seem fairly immune they also tend to have some sort of a river attached... just my bachelor's in interwebs bro science degree talking

    1 Not allowed!
    2018 Warrior 21-21
    350 Suzuki
    9.9 Suzuki
    112lb Ulterra trolling motor
    12 and 10" humminbird solix
    9" garmin with LiveScope

    Bachelor's degree in interwebs bro science

  16. Back To Top    #16
    Premium Member

    Join Date
    May 2015
    Posts
    295
    NDA Points
    4,905
    NDA Level
    29
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 233
    Given: 103
    Wonder how Ashtabula will be. I see that the Corp drained it out completely up around by the Sibley area..

    0 Not allowed!

  17. Back To Top    #17
    Premium Member
    CatDaddy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    Casselton
    Posts
    699
    NDA Points
    50,512
    NDA Level
    98
    Report Entries
    10
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 938
    Given: 718
    Quote Originally Posted by Lungdeflator View Post
    Nean should know, I expect a comprehensive answer any second now.
    ......complete with highly colorful map

    2 Not allowed!

  18. Back To Top    #18
    Ultimate VIP Member
    Davey Crockett's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Boondocks
    Posts
    4,492
    NDA Points
    41,862
    NDA Level
    89
    Report Entries
    1
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 3,233
    Given: 3,376
    Quote Originally Posted by WormWiggler View Post
    the thread makes me wonder, what if you ice fish and bring an air compressor. Attach a weight to the hose, either open ended or a bit restricted and dropped it down the hole? maybe not the hole you are fishing, or too near, but in general? obviously joe schmoe won't prevent winter kill on his favorite lake, but say you have a permanent with air running 24/7, will it attract fish or dispel them? I also a person has guywhomakesthings skills to prevent freeze up, power supply, and other such commoner issues....





    Probably wouldn't matter because the bubbles would make the ice thin so your vehicle or permanent or both might end up on bottom.

    Good question though if diffusers attract or repel fish I ran air in a pond for a couple of years and fished around it a lot and never had a bite. The only problem with aeration is liability, The darn snowmobillers wouldn't stay away . I had a portable unit out on the ice the area clearly marked with danger signs and it was like a magnet to idiots.

    0 Not allowed!
    Last edited by Davey Crockett; 04-04-2019 at 05:39 AM.
    United we stand Divided we fall.

  19. Back To Top    #19
    Premium Member
    1bigfokker's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Posts
    232
    NDA Points
    3,685
    NDA Level
    25
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 218
    Given: 130

    0 Not allowed!

  20. Back To Top    #20
    Premium Member
    dukgnfsn's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    Bismarck
    Posts
    287
    NDA Points
    27,156
    NDA Level
    72
    Report Entries
    9
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 527
    Given: 826
    on ND G&F website, here is a start of the years info
    https://gf.nd.gov/magazine/2019/mar-apr/fishing-waters

    0 Not allowed!

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


About Nodak Angler

    NodakAngler is a community of outdoors enthusiasts. Our primary focus is to provide a great place for North Dakota sportsmen to gather, discuss, and participate. All are welcome.

Business & Contact

Follow us on

Facebook Instagram Twitter