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frozen4sioux

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ill give you the annual rundown..

blah blah blah.... We want to know yout thoughts on the deer season..

blah blah bullshit bullshit bullshit, we'll take that into account...

random local nutjob gets up and screams about some uncle getting 16 buck tags every year and squirrels are all enraged about the electromagnetic waves...

blah blah oh interesting... blah blah lie lie bullshit bullshit bullshit blah blah blah...

and for the last time, wont be the last time, we didnt plant mountain lions with cattle trailers

please enjoy the bad coffee and generic oreos on your way TFO
 

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What we have for hunting is about as good as it’s gonna get right now with the economics of our state so if you don’t like it might as well move to MN haha.

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Zebra mussels should be the #1 discussion but as usual this problem won’t be addressed until it’s too late.
 

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I’m going to advocate for higher priced hunting and fishing licenses. I think they should cost a lot more. Last time this proposal was met with such overwhelming support I think it would be a good idea to keep them going up. Insert eyeroll emoji here....am I in the friggen twilight zone?!?
 

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They are a major waste of time. Nothing but a performance to make people think their voice is being heard
 


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They are a major waste of time. Nothing but a performance to make people think their voice is being heard

Yep!! The G&F doesn't listen to people, they listen to the governors office. The governor appoints the Big Boss and the Big Boss appoints the little bosses. Everyone stays in step with the political agenda of the governor. Which is why many decisions are based on popular opinion (ie votes) and not science. The G&F is a political arm of the governors office. It's all in the century codes folks. Chapter 20.1-02 to be exact. It might be beneficial if more sportsmen understood what this says.
 

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They sure listen though when people think thier license should cost more. They jumped all over that.
 

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People who advocate raising prices for licenses most likely eat lead paint chips.

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More money for the NDGF will just be spent on new equipment they don’t need that will sit in the mess they have at their regional offices .
 

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What we have for hunting is about as good as it’s gonna get right now with the economics of our state so if you don’t like it might as well move to MN haha.

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Zebra mussels should be the #1 discussion but as usual this problem won’t be addressed until it’s too late.

ANS was brought up at our meeting that there were no new infected lakes. I asked them why we don't have a ans fee like MT does. Never could get a strait answer. Also brought up mandatory boat inspection for out of state boats and that wasn't taken very well. Something about it cost to much and what about all the boats from Fargo that go back and fourth between states. I would bet 9 out of 10 times that stuff gets spread it's going to be from out of state fisherman.
 


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What’s an ANS fee?

It's a fee used to help stop ans from fisherman. MT charges like 15$ for NR and 3$ for residents. All out of state boats need to be inspected before being put into any water body.
 

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ill give you the annual rundown..

blah blah blah.... We want to know yout thoughts on the deer season..

blah blah bullshit bullshit bullshit, we'll take that into account...

random local nutjob gets up and screams about some uncle getting 16 buck tags every year and squirrels are all enraged about the electromagnetic waves...

blah blah oh interesting... blah blah lie lie bullshit bullshit bullshit blah blah blah...

and for the last time, wont be the last time, we didnt plant mountain lions with cattle trailers

please enjoy the bad coffee and generic oreos on your way TFO


The advisory meetings are kind of like discussion here on NDA. Everybody has their opinion. Sometimes simple questions can turn into 20 page opinions. case in point: Did slot limits come up at any of the meetings. Or, perhaps, mule deer hunting in the badlands. Not much has changed.

I do remember many years ago (like 30 years ago), I was at a meeting and a local farmer was complaining about the lack of deer and the fact that we should not be hunting during the rut. Sound familiar? Finally one of his neighbors stood and reminded the guy "one of the reasons you're not seeing as many deer is that deer don't like to bed down in drainage ditches." As a well-known drainer of wetlands, the complainer of lack of deer sat down quickly.

How much is there to discuss year after year. At least they're making an attempt.
 

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Attempts don’t stop zebra mussels from ruining lakes permanently. Everyone should head to panny world just across the border and see what zebra mussels do to lakes. For the NDGF to do basically nothing to stop that shows their ignorance and laziness.
 

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Exactly.

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That agency is a complete disaster zone. Failed audits, excuses, and political idealism are there ways. At least that’s what yoda would say haha. They do some great things to but why on earth would you not try to stop zebra mussels? Billboards and public notices do less than nothing.

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I was in devils lake in October watching the duck boats at gas stations behind MN and WI license plates. I saw lots of weeds and stuff hanging from trailers. After my discussions with Greg power I knew ND was screwed as he basically thinks zebra mussels are inevitable and plans to do nothing about it. It’s just sad to see people in positions of power so careless.
 
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Wouldn't do any good to go, but they got to get rid of some of the moose in Burke Co.
 

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They are going to ban baiting by the 2020 hunting season. That is there main goal

Yeah heard on the news this morning they are planning to ban it along the Canadian now. It'll be state wide soon. Claim is because of CWD but we all know it's just people pushing their personal ethics.

As far as the ANS BS you are not going to stop it, that ship has sailed. Pun intended. No amount of money or BS laws are going to make a damn bit of difference.

Most of these "Advisary" meetings are a joke. Our input goes in one ear and out the other and they do what they are going to do anyway.
 

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STANLEY – A deadly disease is poised to have a major impact on North Dakota’s deer, elk and moose populations.
“It’s more a matter of when, not if,” said Scott Peterson, NDG&F deputy director, to sportsmen gathered for a Game and Fish Advisory Board meeting here Monday evening.
CWD is transmissible and fatal for all species of cervids. In North Dakota that means white-tailed deer, mule deer, elk and moose. The progressive and hideous disease attacks the nervous system of the state’s most prized big game animals, eventually causing brain damage to the extent the animals stop foraging and die of emaciation.
“It effects big bucks the most,” said Casey Anderson, NDG&F Wildlife Division assistant chief. “It’s almost like a slow growing cancer in the population. We’re hoping to hold it back until there’s a reasonable solution.”
Doing so seems like a long shot. CWD has already been discovered in Sioux and Grant Counties along the South Dakota border. South Dakota, Montana and Saskatchewan have it too. In the latter case CWD has been identified within six miles of the North Dakota border.
The use of bait piles to attract deer has been closely linked to the spread of CWD, so much so that Game and Fish has outlawed the use of bait in deer Unit 3F2. Deer baiting is allowed elsewhere in the state. However, Anderson told Monday’s gathering of sportsmen, areas along the state’s northern border with Saskatchewan are expected to be added to the “no baiting” list very soon.
“We’re trying to protect the heritage of deer hunting in North Dakota,” said Peterson.
There is no current treatment or vaccine for CWD. The disease is most likely transmitted by oral ingestion of infectious prions. Prions are abnormal forms of cellular protein that accumulate throughout the body of a deer, elk or moose. CWD has been found in saliva, urine and feces. Prions survive on the ground, remaining infectious indefinitely, where they can be ingested by browsing deer.
Deer hunters at the meeting made several comments and inquiries to Game and Fish personnel. One man asked about the number of deer licenses and the goals of the department.
“The current goal is to reach 75,000 licenses,” responded Anderson.
Game and Fish establish deer population objectives, unit by unit, every five years. This past season just over 41,000 deer licenses were available to hunters other than landowners.
Another question asked to Game and Fish concerned the number of bowhunters in the field in quest of mule deer, primarily in the western part of the state where the animals and the Badlands terrain can make for an enjoyable and memorable experience.
“The quality of the deer has gone down substantially,” said one sportsman.
Peterson replied, “That’s not the first time I’ve heard that comment.”
He followed up that response by stating that Game and Fish has “always kind of stayed away from quality deer management.” However, he noted, that doesn’t mean the department won’t be closely monitoring the situation in coming seasons.
Game and Fish Advisory Board meetings are held twice yearly in each of the eight districts throughout the state. The final two meetings were held in Crosby and Steele Tuesday night. Information gained from the meetings is applied to future policy decision making by Game and Fish.
 

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If they’re so concerned with cwd why the hell not ban baiting completely. At least until they can come up with a solution for it. Or does the bow hunting lobby have far too much power?
 

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People who advocate raising prices for licenses most likely eat lead paint chips.

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More money for the NDGF will just be spent on new equipment they don’t need that will sit in the mess they have at their regional offices .

They have nicer spotting scopes, binoculars, thermal units, and gun optics sitting in storage throughout the state than 90% of us use.
 


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