Cattle on state land.

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If you won’t take action, post the legal description and one of the more proactive folks on here will gladly call it in I bet
 


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It’s roughly four to five miles straight east of the fairgrounds in Williston. I don’t know the legal but here is my buddies pic of the onyx on it. C173A41A-ABDF-402C-9075-E1FC652CBE15.jpg
 

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It’s roughly four to five miles straight east of the fairgrounds in Williston. I don’t know the legal but here is my buddies pic of the onyx on it. 0F54DFE0-CC00-491F-BA55-5DE902AA988C.jpg

baha you can complain on the internet for days but a simple phone call is too much. Incredible
 

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Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 


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Ya call and bitch when I could look like a total dumb ass lol. Maybe you do that but most people ask questions and find out the most info you can before you make yourself look like an ass.
 

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There is no feeding allowed on State land. If you are sure it's happening on state land one simple call to the Trust Lands Dept. would put a stop to that in a hurry. One of my friends jumped me this fall complaining about some state land he wanted to hunt on being posted with no livestock on it. He gave me the legal description and he was right that was state land but when he described the land to me I knew something was wrong because I had just inspected that unit a couple of years ago and there were no tree rows on it. Turns out he didn't read the PLOTS book correctly and he was looking at the wrong land on the map. It was private land next to the state land. He was a bit embarrassed. I've inspected most of the state land in Morton, Grant and Sioux Counties in the last 5 years and only found one case of cattle being fed on state land recently and that ended immediately when I reported it. I also found a couple of cases where hay was being stacked and stored on state land and that also ended. Just contact the Dept. and they will take action.

From the Dept. of Trust Lands web site:

3. PROHIBITED USES. The land shall only be used for the purposes set forth above. LESSEE may not cultivate additional acreage or change the location of fields. Other prohibited uses include, but are not limited to, equipment storage; hay storage; trash dumping; rock dumping; feedlots; feeding; draining water on or off the land; mining scoria, gravel, clay, or any other minerals; cutting wood; or allowing others to do the same unless authorized in writing by LESSOR.


Good to know, thanks Ponyroper!
 

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Ya call and bitch when I could look like a total dumb ass lol. Maybe you do that but most people ask questions and find out the most info you can before you make yourself look like an ass.
Just curious, why would you call and bitch and make yourself look like an ass? Be pretty easy to call the ones that ACTUALLY know the situation and could give you answers to your questions WITHOUT bitching about it ? Not logical enough I suppose? :;:huh
 

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Why would I waste those people’s time when somebody on here probably knows. I asked the question then it just turned into a discussion like every other post on this site does. That’s how things work here. I guess if you don’t understand that then I guess you just don’t understand that lol. Just pay more attention.
 


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If they are breaking the laws regarding cattle on trust lands and you call it in, how is that bitching, or wasting someone’s time, or making you look like a dumbass? If you genuinely care about public lands and this person is genuinely breaking the rules, isn’t it your duty as a public land sportsman to take more action than whining about it on a website?
 

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My original post was asking about the regulations on it because I didn’t know. The more this discussion went on the more info I found out. So Monday I’ll make a call. This land is basically at a dead end of some lease roads so nobody ever goes back there so I’m sure he has always gotten away with it.
 

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BINGO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But it is sooo much easier to complain about something on the internet than go and find the actual truth and the facts.

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Call Tuesday. Monday may be a holiday for them. Will love to hear what you find out. Thanks
 

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My original post was asking about the regulations on it because I didn’t know. The more this discussion went on the more info I found out. So Monday I’ll make a call. This land is basically at a dead end of some lease roads so nobody ever goes back there so I’m sure he has always gotten away with it.

Good deal
 

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Ever wonder why, sooner or later, things turn into a pissin match?
 


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Don’t worry about such things the wardens are only issuing tickets if you forget your orange ... wardens don’t care about public land they are busy patrolling certain private lands.
 

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Don’t worry about such things the wardens are only issuing tickets if you forget your orange ... wardens don’t care about public land they are busy patrolling certain private lands.
This wouldn't fall under a Wardens duty anyway. More like the sherriff's.
 

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I emailed land dept. response was they didn’t have to be off in winter but feeding was against the lease unless specific permission was granted and it didn’t sound as though there was any given. They will inspect it he said. Surprises me they can be on all winter
 

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I would assume overgrazing could also be an issue


https://www.land.nd.gov/SurfaceLeasing/GrazingCalculator


https://www.land.nd.gov/drought-management

https://www.land.nd.gov/trust-lands.../trust-lands-lease-auctions/trust-lands-lease


[FONT=&quot]1. LEASE TERM. The Lease term (“Lease Term”) begins on this 1st day of January[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2. ASSIGNMENTS AND THIRD PARTY USE. This Lease or any part thereof shall not be assigned, nor shall LESSEE allow the land or any part thereof to be used in any manner by anyone other than LESSEE without the written consent of COMMISSIONER. A grazing permit issued by a grazing association to a member‑permittee does not violate this clause.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]3. PROHIBITED USES. The land shall only be used for the purposes set forth above. LESSEE may not cultivate additional acreage or change the location of fields. her prohibited uses include, but are not limited to, equipment storage; hay storage; trash dumping; rock dumping; feedlots; feeding; draining water on or off the land; mining scoria, gravel, clay, or any other minerals; cutting wood; or allowing others to do the same unless authorized in writing by LESSOR.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]4. NONPERMANENT IMPROVEMENTS. LESSEE may place nonpermanent improvements, (e.g., fences, corrals, water tanks, and mobile calf creep feeders) on the Land and must remove them within 120 days after the Lease expires. Any nonpermanent improvements not removed within 120 days shall become the property of the next lessee. COMMISSIONER, upon written application from LESSEE before the end of the 120‑day period, may, for cause, extend the period of time for removing nonpermanent improvements.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]5. PERMANENT IMPROVEMENTS. Permanent improvements (e.g., buildings, wells, dams, water holes, water lines, trees) may not be placed on or removed from the Land without written consent of COMMISSIONER. All permanent improvements shall be deemed the property of LESSOR. However, at the discretion of COMMISSIONER, the cost of permanent improvements may be credited to the rent for the following lease years or may be depreciated for the protection of LESSEE'S investment in the event the Land is leased to another person, sold, or exchanged. To be eligible for rent credit or depreciation, the application must be received and approved by COMMISSIONER before construction.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]6. USE AND MAINTENANCE OF PERMANENT IMPROVEMENTS. LESSEE may use wells, dams, dugouts and water lines on the Land and any other improvements belonging to LESSOR. Said use is subject to payment of any depreciated costs to a prior lessee as defined in paragraph 5. LESSEE shall maintain all improvements belonging to LESSOR, at no expense to LESSOR, in as good condition as received, normal wear excepted. Major repairs must be approved in writing by COMMISSIONER before beginning work. All repairs shall be deemed the property of LESSOR subject only to the right of LESSEE to request depreciation or rent credit, as defined in paragraph 5, for major repairs.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]7. LESSEE ACCEPTS LIABILITY FOR INJURIES AND DAMAGES TO HIMSELF AND OTHERS - CONDITION OF PREMISES. LESSOR makes no representation concerning the condition, safety, or usability of the Land and any improvements. LESSEE leases the Land and any improvements on an "as is" basis. LESSOR does not covenant that the Land and its improvements are fit or safe for the purposes for which LESSEE intends to use them. LESSEE accepts liability and indemnifies and holds harmless LESSOR for any loss that may be suffered by the person or property of LESSEE, LESSEE’S employees and agents, and anyone else, when such loss is in any way related to LESSEE’S use and management of the Land and its improvements.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]8. RANGELAND USE. LESSEE shall not allow overgrazing which would result in forage production below the potential in good range condition.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]9. CROPLAND USE. If cropland is specifically authorized by this Lease, LESSEE shall maintain the Land consistent with good cropping practices for similar soils in the area. LESSEE shall prevent soil loss through erosion in excess of the established soil loss tolerance by the use of crop residue management, reduced tillage practices, grassed waterways, stripcropping, or other accepted conservation practices. Cropland must be farmed under the Federal crop program such that crop bases are maintained unless exempted in writing by COMMISSIONER. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]10. WEED CONTROL. LESSEE shall control all noxious weeds on the Land and maintain the Land in a reasonably weed free condition.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]11. CONSERVATION PLAN. LESSOR reserves the right to require LESSEE to implement a soil conservation or range management plan at any time during the Lease to prevent damage or to improve the condition of the Land. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]12. ROAD DITCHES. LESSEE shall mow and maintain road ditches as required by law.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]13. PUBLIC ACCESS. LESSEE may not post or otherwise prohibit non‑vehicular public access to the land, but exceptions may be granted at the sole discretion of COMMISSIONER. If LESSEE desires to be notified prior to anyone entering the land, LESSEE shall post only signs provided by COMMISSIONER setting forth LESSEE'S name, address, and telephone number. LESSEE may not lease, sell or otherwise charge for access on the land.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]14. ENCUMBRANCES. This Lease is subject to all existing and future coal, oil, natural gas, uranium, gravel, scoria, clay, and other mineral leases and exploration permits covering the Land. LESSEE agrees that the holders of such leases or permits may enter upon the Land and conduct exploration and mining operations. This Lease is further subject to all existing and future easements, rights-of-way, and other servitudes covering the Land and LESSEE agrees to honor same. LESSEE shall not be entitled to any compensation by reason of such leases, permits, easements, rights-of-way, or servitudes unless otherwise provided for by LESSOR.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]15. RIGHT OF ENTRY. LESSOR or its agent may enter the Land at any time without notification for the purpose of inspecting the Land and improvements thereon. LESSEE further agrees to allow LESSOR or its agent access to the Land across LESSEE'S property, or property leased by the LESSEE.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]16. SALE OR EXCHANGE. This Lease is specifically made subject to termination in the event LESSOR notifies LESSEE, during the months of October through January of any year during the Lease Term, that all or a portion of the Land will be sold or exchanged by LESSOR. If the Land is sold or exchanged, LESSEE shall surrender possession of the Land within thirty days of LESSOR mailing to LESSEE a notice of the sale or exchange.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]17. COMPLIANCE WITH LAWS AND REGULATIONS. LESSEE shall comply with all applicable rules and regulations of the Board of University and School Lands and all applicable state and federal laws, including payment of any taxes levied against the Land or LESSEE'S interest thereon.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]18. FAILURE TO PAY RENT. If LESSEE fails to pay rent when due, this Lease shall automatically expire on the last day of the lease period for which rent was last paid. In order to enforce such forfeiture of Lease, no demand for rent either written or verbal need be given LESSEE nor is a notice of termination required.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]19. CANCELLATION. If LESSEE fails to comply with any of the terms and conditions of this Lease, it may be cancelled by LESSOR. Cancellation is effective upon actual delivery of a notice of cancellation by LESSOR, except that no notice is required for cancellation as provided in paragraph 18.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]20. NO WARRANTY OF TITLE. LESSOR neither warrants nor agrees to defend title to the Land.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]21. ADDITIONAL LEASE PROVISIONS. This Lease is made subject to any additional lease provisions made known prior to leasing which are hereby attached and made a part hereof.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]22. AMENDMENTS. Lease amendments must be in writing and executed by both the LESSOR and LESSEE.[/FONT]
 
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