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      Dakota maid ammo?

      Is this a good move by the state or is it to socialist?

      Bismarck, ND (KEYZ) North Dakota gun shops are among the latest to be disarmed by COVID-19.

      Firearms retailers are dealing with supply shortages brought on by the pandemic. Smaller shops now have less inventory since supply chains were shut down to stop the spread of the virus last year. Gun owners say primer and ammunition are hard to come by currently.
      State lawmakers are working on a bill that would create a state-run manufacturing plant to help with the issue of supply.

      https://www.keyzradio.com/gun-stores...-the-pandemic/

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      I hope they use a busty St. Pauli type girl for their logo.

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      Seems kinda silly, it would take quite the investment to load ammo for a broad enough swath of users to really help much.

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      "Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself." Mark Twain, speaking on Congress.

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      I kinda lean to "Way less government in our shit, the better" Next thing they will have the G&F running the damn reloading shop. The state should keep their asses out of every ones business including hunting,fishing and posting land.

      Fish On!

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      They're going to have to figure out how to manufacture their own priming compound, primer cups, and smokeless powder first and foremost.

      Brass and projectiles can probably be out-sourced with reasonable availability.

      It's an interesting concept. The closest thing out there right now to a vertically integrated ammo manufacturer in the US is Vista Outdoors owning several separate companies that can cooperate to provide loaded ammo. IE: Alliant, CCI, Federal, and Remington. That said, Alliant powders still have to make the trip from Europe.

      CCI is primers and loaded ammo but no powder

      Federal is ammo, brass, and primers but no powder

      Alliant is just powder

      Speer is ammo and projectiles but no powder or primers

      Outside of V/O in the US you've got:

      Hodgdon which owns obviously all of the "H" powders but also the IMR, Winchester, and as of Dec/Jan all of Western Powders (Ramshot, Accurate, and Norma). But most of them are made outside of the USA.

      Very little smokeless powder is actually Made in the USA. "H" extreme powders all come from Aus with the non-extreme ball powders coming out of the same plant as Winchester powders in FL. IMR powders are made in Canada. Most of the Ramshot powders are made in Belgium. Alliant is made in Switzerland and Sweden. Norma is Made in Sweden. VV is in Finland and owned by Nammo out of Norway. Shooters World is from Czech Republic. Vectan is French.

      Lot-to-lot consistency regarding powder is a MAJOR concern in the market both from a liability perspective as well as customer satisfaction and customer loyalty. Powder manufacturers who've been in business a long time have many multiple legacy lots of powder with which they blend brand new lots in order to maintain long-term QC.

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      Last edited by SDMF; 03-03-2021 at 01:58 PM.
      This has been like listening to Nancy Pelosi argue with Ozzy Osborne.

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      So why little to no powders made in the US

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      Quote Originally Posted by eyexer View Post
      So why little to no powders made in the US
      No clue, but, if forced to guess I'd say gunpowder plants are probably what many consider to be environmentally unfriendly.

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      This has been like listening to Nancy Pelosi argue with Ozzy Osborne.

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      Dumb. Disregarding the communist aspect of it (for now), my question would be "where you gonna get the components?"
      Like many government ideas, it sounds good until you look into the details. In most cases, that killer question is "how you gonna pay for it?" However, in this case, they can't just tax their way to making primers and powder appear out of thin air.

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      Quote Originally Posted by eyexer View Post
      So why little to no powders made in the US
      I would guess 1. liability 2. NIMBY 3. Cost

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      Typical government program. Sounds like a good idea until you think it all the way through. I loathe the idea of more competition for the scarce amount of reloading components currently available.

      Wouldn’t it be great if there was less H1000 available, but the state had a huge supply of 300 Weatherby ammo.

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      so can a micro brewery version of ammo components become a thing?

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