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    Thread: .222 Rem

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      .222 Rem



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      Got a bit confused at the end: Why is the .22/250 a bastard because of a rebated rim?

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      No rebated rim on the ‘250. Pre-CreedMoor, the 250 Savage and 22-250 were the only cases on the ‘06 case-head to share the 1.9”/2.350” length. Everything else ‘06 based was/is either 2.01/2.8” or 2.5/3.34”.

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      Last edited by SDMF; 04-16-2021 at 09:06 PM.
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      My first deer rifle in 59 was a model 70 in 222. Not the best but it was what i had.
      Hunted rabbits with a 22k hornet in model 70. Said came with the k in order to compete with the 222.
      Anyways would hunt rabbits in spring laying in the furrows of fall plowing.

      Found the 222 would hit but rabbit would take off running for a ways then die. Hornet never did that.
      But the 222 was a big time bullet in its time until the military took the 223 over the 222. A lot of bullets came from the 222.

      Today my rifle is chamber for the 222 magnum. Now have 80 bullets for it and try to buy whenever i find a box. But have not shot and there are no rabbits and no fall plowing. They were great times back then.
      One spring day dad and i took the 22 hornet. the family car (a 1949 Olds convertible) into the plowing and got over 30 rabbits. All put in the truck and back seat of the car. I think they had some value but less than a buck.

      Next came the 250/3000 in model 99e savage and then a model 94 30-30.
      It was all a learning process but my 6.5 creedmoor is a 264 mag in a model 70 and that is the way it will be. db

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      Last edited by db-2; 04-16-2021 at 09:28 PM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by SDMF View Post
      No rebated rim on the ‘250. Pre-CreedMoor, the 250 Savage and 22-250 were the only cases on the ‘06 case-head to share the 1.9”/2.350” length. Everything else ‘06 based was/is either 2.01/2.8” or 2.5/3.34”.

      Spomer rubs right up against unwatchable.
      Got a chuckle from "unwatchable" (not against you). My math is retard. The confusion stems from what derivative case does the '250 originate? I believe it's from 7Mauser (.275 Rigby) and wonder how the measurements differ. For instance: Is the parent for an '06 a rimmed 7Mauser? I realize the existence of Gore's Internet and still welcome education from experience and logical humans.

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      You effer's, I'm in no mood at this time of night to discover this on my favorite brain candy website.


      This shit's gonna cost me some sleep.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Stevenson View Post
      Got a chuckle from "unwatchable" (not against you). My math is retard. The confusion stems from what derivative case does the '250 originate? I believe it's from 7Mauser (.275 Rigby) and wonder how the measurements differ. For instance: Is the parent for an '06 a rimmed 7Mauser? I realize the existence of Gore's Internet and still welcome education from experience and logical humans.
      The 22-250 was born of the '250 Savage and shares the .473 case-head of the '06/'08 family.

      The 257 Roberts and 6MMRem/.244Rem were born of the 7x57.

      Regarding the OP, the 220 Swift's parent case was the 6mm Lee Navy. The 'Swift being semi-rimmed makes it the bastard of the bunch IMO. Often the 'swift doesn't feed well from the magazine, you'll get the rim of the case you want to chamber snapped BEHIND the case beneath it which then approximates the monkey/football rutting season.

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      I’ve never had problems with a swift feeding as long as one doesn’t forget the loading order of operation.

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      The green hornet's caught more fish than you've lied about!

      That’s what it’s all about, Guns n Butter baby!

      Its not where they’re at, it’s where they’re going to be!

      You probably heard I ain’t in the prisoner-takin business....I’m in the killin wildlife business........and cousin, business is a-boomin!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kentucky Windage View Post
      I’ve never had problems with a swift feeding as long as one doesn’t forget the loading order of operation.
      Therein lies the rub from the horse's mouth as it were.

      Think now to the encroachment of mag confines by newer, longer, slickerier projectiles and explain how you want to give up ~4-semi-rims worth of mag space for the top cartridge in the magazine all for a cartridge easily approximated otherwise sans the monkey-rut rim, demonstrable case-stretch, and cracky-neck syndrome.

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      Quote Originally Posted by SDMF View Post
      Therein lies the rub from the horse's mouth as it were.

      Think now to the encroachment of mag confines by newer, longer, slickerier projectiles and explain how you want to give up ~4-semi-rims worth of mag space for the top cartridge in the magazine all for a cartridge easily approximated otherwise sans the monkey-rut rim, demonstrable case-stretch, and cracky-neck syndrome.
      Because it’s waaaaayyyy cooler to say you have a Swift VS a 6.5 creed/manbun.

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      The green hornet's caught more fish than you've lied about!

      That’s what it’s all about, Guns n Butter baby!

      Its not where they’re at, it’s where they’re going to be!

      You probably heard I ain’t in the prisoner-takin business....I’m in the killin wildlife business........and cousin, business is a-boomin!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kentucky Windage View Post
      Because it’s waaaaayyyy cooler to say you have a Swift VS a 6.5 creed/manbun.
      I wouldn’t say “cooler”. It does denote to the rest of the shooting public that you value velocity over feed/function.

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      Last edited by SDMF; 04-17-2021 at 01:14 PM.
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      220 Swift any day over a creedmoor. Shot one as a kid and if i ever get my stimulus it is a rifle on my list. Would like in pre 64, pre war model 70 or Mark v weatherby. Not sure how to tell if barrel is okay and maybe will have to look at a cheaper brand. Should of bought a pre 64 years ago for $1,200 that was offer to me with scope.
      One i shot was a pre 64 and do not remember any feeding problems. db

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      Last edited by db-2; 04-17-2021 at 11:34 AM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by db-2 View Post
      220 Swift any day over a creedmoor. Shot one as a kid. One i shot was a pre 64 and do not remember any feeding problems. db
      Sako was about the only manufacturer that had Swift feeding down well, and I still wouldn't have one over a '250. All 'Swifts require careful loading so as not to overlap vs. stack the rims in the mag box. Stacking the rims eats up mag-box capacity.

      If the 'Swift case was desirable at all, there'd be derivatives, that there's not answers the question.

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      Most of the conversation gets over my head. i am a forgiving, old person and just love the older weapons with all there shortfalls. Have a few from the late 1800 or earlier 1900. db
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      Saw the thread and got excited if only for a moment. The .222 is my favorite caliber. My first rifle was a Savage 840 given to me by me grandfather (who is in his 80s now, and still loves to hear about our hunts). That gun has taken everything from prariedogs to deer. My youngest daughter took her first coyote this winter with it. Worth more to me than all my other guns combined. Name:  Snapchat-1118327065.jpg
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      ^^^^That's a million dollar pic indeed!

      As always SD, appreciate the input.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ShootnBlanks View Post
      Saw the thread and got excited if only for a moment. The .222 is my favorite caliber. My first rifle was a Savage 840 given to me by me grandfather (who is in his 80s now, and still loves to hear about our hunts). That gun has taken everything from prariedogs to deer. My youngest daughter took her first coyote this winter with it. Worth more to me than all my other guns combined. Name:  Snapchat-1118327065.jpg
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      Fantastic pic, congrats to your daughter and good on you for preserving the memory. No flies on the .222, it's an elegant little case.

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      I have a real fondness for the .222

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      Quote Originally Posted by Wags2.0 View Post
      I have a real fondness for the .222
      Me too.

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      I think I have a box or two laying around some where. Dont have a 222 anymore so no use for me. 22-250 is my go too. LB

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