Trespass Law Question

[Migrator Man]

If the land has a perimeter fence, it only needs to be posted at the access points. In other words, at the gates.

Yup but even one posted sign on one of those fence posts is enough to earn a ticket for trespassing. My point is a guy has to be careful to look at the whole section for posters

 

[eyexer]

How many actual trespassing convictions are there in a given year

 

[fireone]

E-posting had nothing to do with trespass. Follow the money. SD, MT, ID used to open access like ND was. Pay to play now.

 

[Kurtr]

E-posting had nothing to do with trespass. Follow the money. SD, MT, ID used to open access like ND was. Pay to play now.

that’s not true for both South Dakota or Idaho both have enough public land hunting isn’t hard and if your not lazy getting permission is easy here in Sodak. Have not been told no yet this year and all the geese have been shot on land owners I don’t know. From the guys I talked to that have early goose hunted up there the e posting has worked great

 

[fireone]

Of course people can hunt public land unless they can't get access to cross private ground to get there. Public land isn't the point. In ND we have very little of it compared to other states. We quit pheasant hunting SD long ago and then SD started posting public water too. In ID the 2 billionaire brothers from Texas pushed the No-Trespass law through so they could lock up thousands of public acres for themselves. In MT it's common to charged to hunt private land or pay to cross it. Money drives the No Trespass laws.

 

[Kurtr]

Of course people can hunt public land unless they can't get access to cross private ground to get there. Public land isn't the point. In ND we have very little of it compared to other states. We quit pheasant hunting SD long ago and then SD started posting public water too. In ID the 2 billionaire brothers from Texas pushed the No-Trespass law through so they could lock up thousands of public acres for themselves. In MT it's common to charged to hunt private land or pay to cross it. Money drives the No Trespass laws.

Well the water thing would not have happened if people were not slobs leaving garbage out ice fishing and when it comes to hunting that affects next to nothing. I would say makes it better keeping the roost busters at bay. Which land was cut of by the wilks brothers as i have hunted that exact area in Idaho the last five years and they had access roads to get to areas you just could not stop and shot on their property. I have never hunted montana so dont know personally but plenty of friends do and they have no problem finding hunting spots. Money sure is the driving factor but thats pretty much every thing in life

 

[JMF]

Of course people can hunt public land unless they can't get access to cross private ground to get there. Public land isn't the point. In ND we have very little of it compared to other states. We quit pheasant hunting SD long ago and then SD started posting public water too. In ID the 2 billionaire brothers from Texas pushed the No-Trespass law through so they could lock up thousands of public acres for themselves. In MT it's common to charged to hunt private land or pay to cross it. Money drives the No Trespass laws.

Please name one instance in ND where you can't access public land because it's landlocked by private.

 

[Kentucky Windage]

This thread is definitely headed in a productive and positive direction. Carry on with the good

 

[Ruddy Duck]

Please name one instance in ND where you can't access public land because it's landlocked by private.

I have come across school land that has no access.

 

[Jiffy]

I've also had a rancher who had their cattle grazing school land try and tell me it was posted and I couldn't hunt there.

I told him that was interesting, I didn't realize you could post public land. I'll call the game warden and verify that. Hold on...(as I pull out my phone)

Rancher: "F@#$ing, God$#@%, F@#$%ing ...ect"...(as he speeds off in a cloud of dust)

People will try anything.

I should clarify, he didn't have the proper signs. In fact he didn't have any signs.

 

[JMF]

I have come across school land that has no access.

Please elaborate. Was it a whole section or just a quarter? Was the section line that borders it closed? What prevented you from gaining access? I'm honestly curious.

I should clarify I'm asking about physical access. In some cases the landowner can post school sections which would prevent you from hunting it, but you can still fish or pick berries on it.

 

[fireone]

Please name one instance in ND where you can't access public land because it's landlocked by private.

Every major river valley in the state that has pastures has big chunks of section line access to the river fenced out, dozens of fishing lakes same thing, I can think of 2 units of state school land, a section line cut with a backhoe to a popular lake, a double fenced section line that was blocked with a rock pile, and if you remember when Cannonball put there own people on the County Commission to "officially" lockup a popular PLOTS down by Mott. Almost every session of the ND legislature has the crazy bill to privatize the Corps land.

But landlocked was not the point of the reply. Unposted land drives the pay to play businesses nuts. It is money out of their pockets and direct competition.

 

[zoops]

I know of a couple WPA's in ND landlocked by posted land. Technically a section line leads to them but the section lines have large sloughs across them.

 

[Maddog]

I know of a couple WPA's in ND landlocked by posted land. Technically a section line leads to them but the section lines have large sloughs across them.

Marsh skis?

 

[espringers]

Pics or screenshots would help.

 

[Sum1]

Hunting is hardly worth the hassle anymore unless you own your own land.

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They could at least make the ditches open like in SD.

 

[JMF]

Every major river valley in the state that has pastures has big chunks of section line access to the river fenced out, dozens of fishing lakes same thing, I can think of 2 units of state school land, a section line cut with a backhoe to a popular lake, a double fenced section line that was blocked with a rock pile, and if you remember when Cannonball put there own people on the County Commission to "officially" lockup a popular PLOTS down by Mott. Almost every session of the ND legislature has the crazy bill to privatize the Corps land.

But landlocked was not the point of the reply. Unposted land drives the pay to play businesses nuts. It is money out of their pockets and direct competition.

Unless the section line has been official closed by the county, all of these things are illegal. If you did nothing about it you are part of the problem. No different than the landowners wanting everything posted because of trespassing, but are unwilling to call the sheriff when they do catch trespassers.

 

[NDbowman]

I have come across school land that has no access.

Can you post an aerial map of this school land that has no access? I would like to see that there are no section lines that are available.

 

[Ruddy Duck]

Please elaborate. Was it a whole section or just a quarter? Was the section line that borders it closed? What prevented you from gaining access? I'm honestly curious.

I should clarify I'm asking about physical access. In some cases the landowner can post school sections which would prevent you from hunting it, but you can still fish or pick berries on it.

I have no personal experience with these pictures, I just pulled them form the plots guide, and maybe I am wrong, maybe these are accesable but they dont look like it from the map .

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[eyexer]

Hunting is hardly worth the hassle anymore unless you own your own land.

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They could at least make the ditches open like in SD.

i think we will have to do this via initiated measure