User Tag List

  • Amused
  • Angry
  • Annoyed
  • Awesome
  • Bemused
  • Cocky
  • Cool
  • Crazy
  • Crying
  • Down
  • Drunk
  • Embarrassed
  • Enraged
  • Friendly
  • Geeky
  • Grumpy
  • Happy
  • Hungry
  • Innocent
  • Meh
  • Piratey
  • Sad
  • Shy
  • Sneaky
  • WTF!?
  • zzz
  • Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
    Results 41 to 54 of 54

    Thread: Consumption

    1. Back To Top    #41
      VIP Member
      No Current Status
       
      Mood:
      ----
       
      Maddog's Avatar
      Join Date
      May 2017
      Location
      One step closer to the end.
      Posts
      971
      NDA Points
      151,164
      NDA Level
      100
      Thumbs Up
      Received: 2,116
      Given: 5,052
      Quote Originally Posted by guywhofishes View Post
      In the winter you're simply heating with electric heat when any lights are turned on.

      Every bit of grow light gets "put to use" - either into growing veg or dissipating as heat wherever it lands off the plants.

      I wouldn't sweat the cost of grow lights in the winter.

      too cold to sweat in the winter . . .

      - - - Updated - - -

      Quote Originally Posted by Lycanthrope View Post
      Unfortunately you cant really measure lumens with blurple lights, because as the saying goes "lumens are for humans", its basically a measurement of how the human eye PERCEIVES light, but because of the wavelength of the red/blue lights, it doesnt work at all with those. You can measure PAR (photosynthetic active radiation) but need a fairly expensive tool to do this.
      unfortunately there is a conversion for lumens to watts

      1 Not allowed!

    2. Back To Top    #42
      Ultimate VIP Member
      No Current Status
       
      Mood:
      ----
       
      Lycanthrope's Avatar
      Join Date
      May 2015
      Location
      Bismarck
      Posts
      2,613
      NDA Points
      182,861
      NDA Level
      100
      Report Entries
      9
      Thumbs Up
      Received: 2,245
      Given: 3,538
      Quote Originally Posted by Maddog View Post
      too cold to sweat in the winter . . .
      - - - Updated - - -
      unfortunately there is a conversion for lumens to watts
      Any conversion for lumens to watts would be an estimate at best, and would only work with white lights. Even with white lights I dont know how it could be even remotely accurate, as efficiency is greatly variable, even when using the same technology. There are white LED lights that will only produce 60 lumens/watt and there are LED lights that will produce over 200 lumens/watt...

      1 Not allowed!
      Last edited by Lycanthrope; 01-20-2022 at 12:36 PM.

    3. Back To Top    #43
      VIP Member
      No Current Status
       
      Mood:
      ----
       
      Maddog's Avatar
      Join Date
      May 2017
      Location
      One step closer to the end.
      Posts
      971
      NDA Points
      151,164
      NDA Level
      100
      Thumbs Up
      Received: 2,116
      Given: 5,052
      Quote Originally Posted by Lycanthrope View Post
      Any conversion for lumens to watts would be an estimate at best, and would only work with white lights. Even with white lights I dont know how it could be even remotely accurate, as efficiency is greatly variable, even when using the same technology. There are white LED lights that will only produce 60 lumens/watt and there are LED lights that will produce over 200 lumens/watt...
      Power is power. It takes amps to power an electrical device. The amp draw at the voltage required is power. Easy conversion to wattage. He gave the power in watts..

      Carry on. Don't think I missed anything as he didn't give any thing in lumens. ?

      I googled and they gave a conversion rate for lumens to watts. I agree with your statement about the efficiency of different lighting devices to give different levels of lighting per power supplied.

      1 Not allowed!
      Last edited by Maddog; 01-20-2022 at 12:49 PM.

    4. Back To Top    #44
      Premium Member
      No Current Status
       
      Mood:
      ----
       
      Jiffy's Avatar
      Join Date
      Oct 2018
      Location
      West Fargo
      Posts
      580
      NDA Points
      18,706
      NDA Level
      59
      Thumbs Up
      Received: 967
      Given: 359
      yes BUT how many lumes do you need to grow a pound of mexican bam bam?

      2 Not allowed!

    5. Back To Top    #45
      Ultimate VIP Member
      No Current Status
       
      Mood:
      ----
       
      Lycanthrope's Avatar
      Join Date
      May 2015
      Location
      Bismarck
      Posts
      2,613
      NDA Points
      182,861
      NDA Level
      100
      Report Entries
      9
      Thumbs Up
      Received: 2,245
      Given: 3,538
      Quote Originally Posted by Jiffy View Post
      yes BUT how many lumes do you need to grow a pound of mexican bam bam?
      only in mexico...

      1 Not allowed!

    6. Back To Top    #46
      Premium Member
      No Current Status
       
      Mood:
      ----
       
      Jiffy's Avatar
      Join Date
      Oct 2018
      Location
      West Fargo
      Posts
      580
      NDA Points
      18,706
      NDA Level
      59
      Thumbs Up
      Received: 967
      Given: 359
      hahaha

      0 Not allowed!

    7. Back To Top    #47
      Ultimate VIP Member
      No Current Status
       
      Mood:
      ----
       
      eyexer's Avatar
      Join Date
      Apr 2015
      Location
      williston
      Posts
      6,473
      NDA Points
      60,336
      NDA Level
      100
      Report Entries
      2
      Thumbs Up
      Received: 5,230
      Given: 3,587
      Quote Originally Posted by espringers View Post
      again... you guys know they sell beans at the store right?
      For now they do

      - - - Updated - - -

      Quote Originally Posted by Lycanthrope View Post
      Nice job but that light is going to be inadequate for lush growth. Im a bit of a light expert and have been growing indoors for years. If you are interested and can work with simple electricity I can point you in the right direction as far as building some good lights that will outperform those blurple ones by 10x.

      I just built this new light 2 weeks ago, the power supplies are adjustable, at its lowest setting it uses about 250 watts at the plug, full power it takes 650 watts, it is a BEAST.

      Attachment 63029

      Attachment 63030

      Price breakdown:
      MEAN WELL USA Inc. / HLG-320H-54A x 2 = $233
      QB96 Elite V2 Engine × 4 = $252
      24x30 sheet scrap aluminum = $10
      20ft white extension cord = $14
      Misc parts and wire approx $20
      Total= $529
      You can build quality lights cheaper, but really you get what you pay for, as with just about everything in life. For a couple hundred bucks you could get those beans growing really well though...

      Also I saw you are growing at around 75f, that works fine with HID, but with LED youll likely end up with some deficiencies at lower temps, while its good to keep your nutrient temps cooler, ambient temps in the 85 range will probably work better. You can still let your grow area cool down at night, but while the lights are on, warmer temps will make your plants happier.
      The wiring part isn’t a problem. Have wired many homes from start to finish. The reason I went LED is I didn’t want to pull so much power and in such a confined space I was afraid it would be too hot. And I also don’t have a lot of height. In fact right now my damn pea plants are damn near to the ceiling. So I may run into some issues in that regard. All the plants are doing great except tomatoes. They took off good then quit growing and don’t look healthy at all.

      0 Not allowed!

    8. Back To Top    #48
      Ultimate VIP Member
      No Current Status
       
      Mood:
      ----
       
      Rowdie's Avatar
      Join Date
      Apr 2015
      Posts
      4,149
      NDA Points
      203,249
      NDA Level
      100
      Report Entries
      39
      Thumbs Up
      Received: 3,848
      Given: 4,525
      GOOD JOB, now it won't be so obvious when guys want to start growing weeds.

      1 Not allowed!

    9. Back To Top    #49
      Ultimate VIP Member
      No Current Status
       
      Mood:
      ----
       
      Lycanthrope's Avatar
      Join Date
      May 2015
      Location
      Bismarck
      Posts
      2,613
      NDA Points
      182,861
      NDA Level
      100
      Report Entries
      9
      Thumbs Up
      Received: 2,245
      Given: 3,538
      Magnesium and calcium deficiency are common when growing under LED, I often have to supplement for that. Tomatoes like heat, that might be part of your problem if you are keeping it cool. These strips are great if you can handle basic electrical.

      If you use thermal tape and tape them to aluminum strips, you can push them at 1.4 amps easy, probably even higher, you just need to keep them relatively cool, meaning if its too hot to touch, its too hot basically. You can run them without any heatsink if you wanna keep them at 700ma.

      https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...0-C-B3/7907661

      My led lights more than heat my grow area, I have an exhaust fan that kicks in at 86.5f and brings it back down to 85 but I try to set my light timer so it doesnt have to run more than needed. Im starting a bunch of juneberries and also some persimmon trees from seed, also growing some succulents just for fun...

      Name:  20220113_085858.jpg
Views: 314
Size:  96.8 KB

      4 Not allowed!
      Last edited by Lycanthrope; 01-21-2022 at 10:43 AM.

    10. Back To Top    #50
      Ultimate VIP Member
      Life is Good
       
      Mood:
      Happy
       
      Davey Crockett's Avatar
      Join Date
      Apr 2015
      Location
      Boondocks
      Posts
      6,213
      NDA Points
      99,051
      NDA Level
      100
      Report Entries
      1
      Thumbs Up
      Received: 4,860
      Given: 4,829
      [QUOTE

      The wiring part isn’t a problem. Have wired many homes from start to finish. The reason I went LED is I didn’t want to pull so much power and in such a confined space I was afraid it would be too hot. And I also don’t have a lot of height. In fact right now my damn pea plants are damn near to the ceiling. So I may run into some issues in that regard. All the plants are doing great except tomatoes. They took off good then quit growing and don’t look healthy at all.[/QUOTE]


      Since you don't have the height , I'm guessing you will eventually wind up putting the grow beds on the floor.
      If you do , there are cheap little float valves to regulate the water level in the grow beds and they work like a charm. Set the water level you want and let it gravity feed from the holding tank. easy peasy and cheap

      https://www.amazon.com/Adjustable-Pl...%2C156&sr=8-31

      1 Not allowed!
      Life is Good

    11. Back To Top    #51
      Ultimate VIP Member
      No Current Status
       
      Mood:
      ----
       
      WormWiggler's Avatar
      Join Date
      Apr 2015
      Location
      Dickinson ND
      Posts
      3,406
      NDA Points
      728,619
      NDA Level
      100
      Report Entries
      5
      Thumbs Up
      Received: 5,576
      Given: 13,146
      Do you regulate the lights in a particular time from like 12/12 or 18/6, or are they on all the time?

      1 Not allowed!
      I'm here to chew bubble gum and kick ass.... and I'm all out of bubble gum. RIP Rowdy

    12. Back To Top    #52
      Ultimate VIP Member
      No Current Status
       
      Mood:
      ----
       
      eyexer's Avatar
      Join Date
      Apr 2015
      Location
      williston
      Posts
      6,473
      NDA Points
      60,336
      NDA Level
      100
      Report Entries
      2
      Thumbs Up
      Received: 5,230
      Given: 3,587
      Quote Originally Posted by Davey Crockett View Post
      [QUOTE

      The wiring part isn’t a problem. Have wired many homes from start to finish. The reason I went LED is I didn’t want to pull so much power and in such a confined space I was afraid it would be too hot. And I also don’t have a lot of height. In fact right now my damn pea plants are damn near to the ceiling. So I may run into some issues in that regard. All the plants are doing great except tomatoes. They took off good then quit growing and don’t look healthy at all.

      Since you don't have the height , I'm guessing you will eventually wind up putting the grow beds on the floor.
      If you do , there are cheap little float valves to regulate the water level in the grow beds and they work like a charm. Set the water level you want and let it gravity feed from the holding tank. easy peasy and cheap

      https://www.amazon.com/Adjustable-Pl...%2C156&sr=8-31[/QUOTE]
      I can’t lower it. It’s an NFT system constant water flow so I have plumbing to drain back to my tank. I would only have a few inches to work with

      0 Not allowed!

    13. Back To Top    #53
      Ultimate VIP Member
      No Current Status
       
      Mood:
      ----
       
      Lycanthrope's Avatar
      Join Date
      May 2015
      Location
      Bismarck
      Posts
      2,613
      NDA Points
      182,861
      NDA Level
      100
      Report Entries
      9
      Thumbs Up
      Received: 2,245
      Given: 3,538
      Quote Originally Posted by WormWiggler View Post
      Do you regulate the lights in a particular time from like 12/12 or 18/6, or are they on all the time?
      I just use a cheap grounded timer from menards, the mechanical type that has a dial you can adjust for time on/off. Everything plugs into a GFCI outlet so I dont accidently burn my house down. I dont have a fixed "night" because I dont want my plants to get too cold and I use my lights to heat that area. I think I have mine set right now to cycle about 2 hours on, 30 minutes off, roughly.

      2 Not allowed!

    14. Back To Top    #54
      Ultimate VIP Member
      No Current Status
       
      Mood:
      ----
       
      Allen's Avatar
      Join Date
      Apr 2015
      Location
      Lincoln, kinda...
      Posts
      4,429
      NDA Points
      77,180
      NDA Level
      100
      Report Entries
      11
      Thumbs Up
      Received: 5,271
      Given: 2,101
      Everyone needs a hobby.

      1 Not allowed!
      "Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself." Mark Twain, speaking on Congress.

    Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •  


    About Nodak Angler

      NodakAngler is a community of outdoors enthusiasts. Our primary focus is to provide a great place for North Dakota sportsmen to gather, discuss, and participate. All are welcome.

    Business & Contact

    Follow us on

    Facebook Instagram Twitter YouTube