Federal CWD Spending



lunkerslayer

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Yep best way to fight cwd is ban all baiting while we are at let's outlaw growing plots as well more money wasted on a matter that's been effecting wildlife since the dawn of time. While we are at let's find a way to help those poor coyote, fox and all those other animals that deal with mange too.
 

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If this goes through, I think the ND hunting proclamation will be on deck to swell to rival War and Peace in size. This SCREAMS regulatory explosion.
 

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KDM, every level of government is exploding with new regulations. The township, county, city, state and federal. And with that they all want to hire more people. Socialism is coming to every aspect of our lives. Pray for our country! And our children.
 

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For a politician that claims to fight against overspending and federal overreach, this sure seems like an open invitation for the feds to meddle in something that is already being mismanaged by the state while spending even more money.


https://mydakotan.com/2022/04/hoeve...-wasting-disease-research-and-management-act/

"In addition to Hoeven and Heinrich, the legislation is cosponsored by Senators Steve Daines, Jon Tester, Roger Marshall, Amy Klobuchar, Cindy Hyde-Smith, Tina Smith and Cory Booker."

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The North American Deer Farmers Association have been lobbying for years to get money for CWD research. The answer is more than likely in the genomes. Animals with genetic markers MM are most susceptible. LM are less and LL have been known to live six years. Just have to find some that are immune and breed with those.

At the same time the Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies have been lobbying for funds for monitoring. Can anyone remember when George W. at his State of the Union Address said the fed/gov was going to award $50 million to fight CWD? Most of the money went to Wisconsin to buy pick-ups, four wheelers, rifles and hire sharp shooters to wipe out every deer in a three county area. It failed because it created a vacuum and even more deer moved in.

Independently of each other the Deer Growers and Game departments cannot get anything across the finish line lately, so they partnered.

My position has not changed. I believe all money should go to research.

$70 million is a big ask. Can't predict how the Senate will vote but the House voted in favor overwhelmingly.

What a catch 22....in order to get $35 million for CWD research we have to help get $35 million to wildlife agencies for monitoring.
 

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Update, some money was added on to old Bills upping the ante to $10 million currently being spent on CWD. Biden signed that. And then there is this latest Bill upping things to $70 million:

Senate Introduces Act to Secure $70 Million in CWD Funding | Outdoor Life

Here is a little blurb from that story:

“Chronic wasting disease poses an increasing threat to deer, elk, and other wild cervids as it continues to spread with no known cure,” said BHA president and CEO Land Tawney. “CWD also represents a threat to the millions of Americans who rely on healthy cervid populations to feed their families and continue their outdoor traditions. Backcountry Hunters and Anglers commends Senators Hoeven and Heinrich for introducing bipartisan legislation that addresses this crisis by providing federal resources for the cooperative research and management of CWD between state and tribal agencies.
“Unfortunately, it’s not a matter of if your state or region will be impacted by CWD, but when,” said Tawney. “We look forward to working with leaders in both the Senate and the House to expedite advancement of the Chronic Wasting Disease Research and Management Act to the president’s desk.”
Currently, CWD has spread to 29 states and three Canadian provinces. It’s difficult to detect the disease in live deer. In March, President Biden signed a bill that provided $10 million to combat CWD, but that money was a drop in the bucket compared with the funding needed to properly respond to the disease. The $70 million total would be a massive help to the wildlife and agricultural agencies currently working on this issue.

In other news, the NDG&F is dropping eight thousand tags because of EHD while Utah, Wyoming and Oregon are dropping 13,000 tags because of drought, habitat loss and disease.

Utah, Wyoming, and Oregon Are Cutting Big Game Tags Due to Drought Conditions. Will Other States Follow? (msn.com)
 

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pretty much everything that we know is changing and I don't like it
 

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CWD is like racism, don’t talk about it and it will go away. It’s a non issue.
 

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3B2 Has Connections.jpg

Hey - who are the well-connected hunters in 3B2 that have fought this off successfully?

Very impressive. :)
 


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how many outfitters in those areas that banned baiting are still baiting? Quite a few. They've just changed how they do.
 

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how many outfitters in those areas that banned baiting are still baiting? Quite a few. They've just changed how they do.
You mean stockpiling hay and grains for agricultural operations? That's fine and causes no issues but your bucket of corn is sending Bambi the way of the Dodo bird.
 

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I like the photo at the top of the article. They don't even know what type of deer are in north america (red stag). This CWD deal is 1 of 2 things in my opinion. Either this is a grand hoax pushed by anti-hunting people to shut down hunting based on made up disease severity (like covid with humans) or privately scientists are scared that a real possibility exists that CWD will eventually effect people the same way as deer (mad cow, CWD deer = dead people).
 


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I have not seen the final draft but there is going to be a Bill to allow baiting of deer on private property. A core group started awhile back and is growing. Senators and Representatives were present.

Their second meeting will be held Friday October 28th in Minot.

It takes a grassroots effort to stop government agencies from taking.

PM me for where and when.
 

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"Your" elected Representative is a regular fellow just like you Randall.

They want to hear from sportsmen.
 

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Does the game and fish have what's best for the deer or the deer hunters in mind? Is what is best for deer best for deer hunters? Just some thoughts I had reading through this forum because at the end of the day the baiting restriction issue feels like a microcosm of a much larger distrust of the state wildlife agency.......

Link the the Game and Fish CWD management plan
https://gf.nd.gov/sites/default/files/publications/cwd-management-plan-2023-27_1.pdf

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Baiting: To reduce the risk of CWD transmission and establishment through unnatural concentrations of cervids, states should eliminate baiting and feeding of all wild cervids (AFWA 2018). The likelihood of becoming infected with a pathogen is influenced by several factors, including how frequently an individual encounters a given pathogen and the sheer amount of a pathogen they come into contact with during a single exposure event. One exposure does not guarantee infection, but as these two factors increase, the likelihood of infection increases. Managing a disease in a population is founded on trying to create a net reduction in these factors, while accepting that some factors cannot be controlled. Baiting is restricted in 23 of the 29 states where CWD has been detected in the wild, including the three states that border North Dakota. The practice of baiting causes unnaturally high densities of deer for a longer portion of the year, while also repeatedly bringing animals to the same small area. Baiting increases the risk of CWD transmission by artificially increasing the number, intensity and duration of direct (animal to animal) and indirect (animal to contaminated material or environments) contacts among individuals. The disease risk is founded on at least six core principles (with select references): 1. CWD is spread through direct and indirect contact (Miller et al. 2004, Mathiason et al. 2009). 2. Baiting and feeding increases the frequency and intensity of these contacts (Thompson et al. 2008). 3. Baiting and feeding has been shown to increase the transmission of several other diseases in free ranging wildlife that are spread through similar mechanisms (e.g. bovine tuberculosis, Cosgrove et al. 2018; brucellosis, Sorensen et al. 2014; avian influenza, Soos et al. 2012). 4. When deer are artificially congregated under captive settings, CWD spreads more rapidly and to substantially higher rates than documented in wild populations (Keane et al. 2008). 5. Baiting and feeding breaks down the natural spatial segregation of maternal family groups, resulting in increased direct and indirect contact of unrelated animals that typically don’t associate (Blanchong et al. 2006). 6. Compared to natural browse sites, rubs, salt licks and waterholes, mule deer preferentially and more intensively visited artificial feed sources such as grain piles where they had more contacts with the environment (Mejia-Salazar et al. 2018). Scientific analysis of baiting restrictions is typically complicated by the absence of a negative control. Most jurisdictions either impose restrictions following the detection of CWD, or never permitted the practice in the first place. As a result, it is not possible to evaluate the progression of disease with and without this intervention. A legitimate attempt to do so would require identifying two near-identical populations in identical landscapes, introducing CWD into both, and evaluating the disease status after a minimum of 10-20 years. This study design is neither feasible nor ethical, forcing managers to base decisions on core principles listed above. However, Saskatchewan offers a cautionary, albeit anecdotal, tale. The rise in infection rates in mule deer from approximately 3% to 70% in 15 years in an area where baiting is widespread and was never regulated, is the fastest increase documented in free-ranging cervids (Saskatchewan Ministry of Environment, 2022). The Department receives many questions concerning disease risk and food plots. CWD transmission dynamics suggest the risk is lower for food plots compared to baiting and feeding. Animals spread across a larger area means they have fewer direct contacts than if they were feeding around a pile, substantiated by preliminary data from an ongoing Michigan study (S. Courtney, personal communication, July 26, 2022). Forage is less contaminated with urine, saliva, feces, or contaminated soil, than grain offered on the ground. Once depleted, a particular area of the food plot no longer attracts repeated, intensive visits. While the subject of disease risk and food plots is an area of current research, the Department has drafted best management practices to consider for food plots in areas where CWD is established, available in the Wildlife Depredation and Response Policy and Procedures document. SECTION 4 10 | Skeptics of baiting restrictions argue that the existence of transmission risk from natural deer behavior (browsing and grooming, winter yarding, etc.) voids any effort to reduce it. This misses the point, as the ultimate goal of a baiting restriction is to slow the spread. No sincere effort to manage risk depends on the ability to control all risk. Furthermore, the existence of natural transmission does not justify actions that can accelerate it. Given the significant threat posed by CWD, voluntarily perpetuating increased transmission is at odds with the conservation ethic and in direct opposition to the Department’s mission to protect, conserve, and enhance fish and wildlife populations.
 

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I like the photo at the top of the article. They don't even know what type of deer are in north america (red stag). This CWD deal is 1 of 2 things in my opinion. Either this is a grand hoax pushed by anti-hunting people to shut down hunting based on made up disease severity (like covid with humans) or privately scientists are scared that a real possibility exists that CWD will eventually effect people the same way as deer (mad cow, CWD deer = dead people).
I think there are people who are truly worried with the effect CWD has on the deer population, and there are others who are truly worried that this will eventually become a human health issue. Let's face it, there is no cure for any of the brain wasting diseases whether it's CJD, BSE, or CWD. At this point we know two of those affect humans and the 3rd one is similar enough to the other two for biologists (prionologist, is there such a thing) to worry about it's ability to change just enough to infect humans. To date I am not aware of any evidence that it has made the leap to a human infection, but let's contemplate that for a minute.

For one, we know that facilities where CWD infections have occurred are fundamentally impossible to clean to the point animals introduced afterwards were unable to avoid infection. So this prion thing has some lengthy and undefined shelf life in nature. Deer also feed on our crops, and given the size of a prion...I'd have to think plants will have some uptake of the prions as diseased animals die and are returned to the soil and water. That means there is a theoretical pathway to infecting even vegans.

If, or when, this disease does make the leap to humans, what do we think the government will do? I suspect our non-hunting city folks would call for extermination of the deer population. Kind of an apocalyptic scenario, but is the risk really zero?
 


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