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<blockquote data-quote="BrockW" data-source="post: 440748" data-attributes="member: 5910"><p>I like that post and I agree. You don’t have to look hard to find corrupted “science”(Or really corrupted anything). Sometimes it’s government science, sometimes it’s industry science. Kind of like when we were told that leaded gasoline wasn’t hurting anyone and here we find out Exxon bought the “science” to support that. Industry had the government convinced, and it was a man by the name of Clair Patterson who had to knock all those walls of disinformation down to shine a light on the truth about leaded gasoline and its negative impacts to human health.</p><p></p><p>But that is supposed to be how science works. Self correcting. Show the evidence.</p><p></p><p>What evidence have the baiting proponents offered? See the all the claims they’ve made above. No evidence.</p><p></p><p>Once again, no one, not us, not the game and fish, not anyone is saying that they don’t have a right to be skeptical, to ask questions, to want to see the science. The problem, or the frustration, comes when these crazy claims keep getting made and used to rile people up. Folks are literally using conspiracy theories to get people angry so they repeat the claims that have no scientific backing. Introducing bills to make law based on conspiracy theories. Completely disregarding evidence that’s presented.</p><p></p><p>But this conversation isn’t restricted to just science or scientists. Nothing is incorruptible. It doesn’t matter if we’re talking about federal government, state government, county government, city government. It doesn’t matter if we’re talking about a small private family owned business, a large business or a multi-National corporation. Non profits, foundations, charities, farmers/ranchers/cervid farmers.</p><p></p><p>They can all be corrupted and there are individual examples of all of those lying or committing crimes to further their own cause or their own profit margins. Nothing is infallible.</p><p></p><p>But in this instance, and I’m sure many of us will have to agree to disagree, I think the science is more than conclusive. And I’ve talked to enough of these folks around the country working with this disease, that if there was something fishy going on, I think I would’ve sniffed it out by now. I’m a volunteer, paid ZERO dollars…I wouldn’t put up with all nonsense if I wasn’t confident in the information and conclusions. God knows I couldn’t give 2 shits about the ethics of baiting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrockW, post: 440748, member: 5910"] I like that post and I agree. You don’t have to look hard to find corrupted “science”(Or really corrupted anything). Sometimes it’s government science, sometimes it’s industry science. Kind of like when we were told that leaded gasoline wasn’t hurting anyone and here we find out Exxon bought the “science” to support that. Industry had the government convinced, and it was a man by the name of Clair Patterson who had to knock all those walls of disinformation down to shine a light on the truth about leaded gasoline and its negative impacts to human health. But that is supposed to be how science works. Self correcting. Show the evidence. What evidence have the baiting proponents offered? See the all the claims they’ve made above. No evidence. Once again, no one, not us, not the game and fish, not anyone is saying that they don’t have a right to be skeptical, to ask questions, to want to see the science. The problem, or the frustration, comes when these crazy claims keep getting made and used to rile people up. Folks are literally using conspiracy theories to get people angry so they repeat the claims that have no scientific backing. Introducing bills to make law based on conspiracy theories. Completely disregarding evidence that’s presented. But this conversation isn’t restricted to just science or scientists. Nothing is incorruptible. It doesn’t matter if we’re talking about federal government, state government, county government, city government. It doesn’t matter if we’re talking about a small private family owned business, a large business or a multi-National corporation. Non profits, foundations, charities, farmers/ranchers/cervid farmers. They can all be corrupted and there are individual examples of all of those lying or committing crimes to further their own cause or their own profit margins. Nothing is infallible. But in this instance, and I’m sure many of us will have to agree to disagree, I think the science is more than conclusive. And I’ve talked to enough of these folks around the country working with this disease, that if there was something fishy going on, I think I would’ve sniffed it out by now. I’m a volunteer, paid ZERO dollars…I wouldn’t put up with all nonsense if I wasn’t confident in the information and conclusions. God knows I couldn’t give 2 shits about the ethics of baiting. [/QUOTE]
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