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<blockquote data-quote="bravo" data-source="post: 368771" data-attributes="member: 1778"><p>Trust me i think they have done some boneheaded things that I didn't agree with, but to go about it by creating law is where we will have to agree to disagree. Set that precedent, and next you'll have a social media group gain traction to ban trapping, ban swan hunting, etc. The fire that was lit under those who backed the bill would have been better served to organize a something with the G&F director, Dr. Bahnson, and the outreach guys to discuss issues. I know that's what an advisory meeting should be, but this should have been specific to CWD. An olive branch involving the state, ag groups, outdoors groups, I don't know, just a starting point. A lot of the issues you pointed out are kind of damned if you do damned if you don't. The food plots provide habitat to more than deer, and under current regs you are still allowed to do so yourself. Yeah it still congregates deer, but its also an open door for you to "bait". Plus as we all know our landscape is harsh, i think we all would accept the risk of more deer alive is better than some deer with CWD. Also, population explosions happen. Ecology 101, populations ebb and flow year by year, 1 year of perfect growing conditions can result in a boom. 1 bad winter with a wet spring and you are back to square 1. Maybe they were aware the population was trending up and were already implementing solutions. What was your solution? I maintain that the whole reason we are able to even argue about game populations is because of the work our G&F has done for decades. Not many of us were around for the lean years where seeing a deer track was a big deal.</p><p></p><p>I will say this and I don't mean it to be contentious. You do not speak for all landowners. I know plenty who were at best neutral on this bill. The movement that started on facebook and the lockout crowd are beginning to shoot themselves on the foot so to speak. Locking out the average joe (who may have even supported this bill), and making it about landowner rights will eat away your support. I'm not sure what landowner rights are being violated. Because we own land, we do not have free reign to apply our own regs, bag limits, seasons or what have you. Putting in the time and resources to help game is awesome, but it doesn't make the game yours either. Owning land means we follow laws from the feds down to township sometimes. Speaking with legislators, the feedback was pretty close to 50-50 on this bill, sometimes being on the losing side sucks but I don't believe it was a case of voices not being heard. I don't like that a wedge continues to be further driven between two sides of sportsmen.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bravo, post: 368771, member: 1778"] Trust me i think they have done some boneheaded things that I didn't agree with, but to go about it by creating law is where we will have to agree to disagree. Set that precedent, and next you'll have a social media group gain traction to ban trapping, ban swan hunting, etc. The fire that was lit under those who backed the bill would have been better served to organize a something with the G&F director, Dr. Bahnson, and the outreach guys to discuss issues. I know that's what an advisory meeting should be, but this should have been specific to CWD. An olive branch involving the state, ag groups, outdoors groups, I don't know, just a starting point. A lot of the issues you pointed out are kind of damned if you do damned if you don't. The food plots provide habitat to more than deer, and under current regs you are still allowed to do so yourself. Yeah it still congregates deer, but its also an open door for you to "bait". Plus as we all know our landscape is harsh, i think we all would accept the risk of more deer alive is better than some deer with CWD. Also, population explosions happen. Ecology 101, populations ebb and flow year by year, 1 year of perfect growing conditions can result in a boom. 1 bad winter with a wet spring and you are back to square 1. Maybe they were aware the population was trending up and were already implementing solutions. What was your solution? I maintain that the whole reason we are able to even argue about game populations is because of the work our G&F has done for decades. Not many of us were around for the lean years where seeing a deer track was a big deal. I will say this and I don't mean it to be contentious. You do not speak for all landowners. I know plenty who were at best neutral on this bill. The movement that started on facebook and the lockout crowd are beginning to shoot themselves on the foot so to speak. Locking out the average joe (who may have even supported this bill), and making it about landowner rights will eat away your support. I'm not sure what landowner rights are being violated. Because we own land, we do not have free reign to apply our own regs, bag limits, seasons or what have you. Putting in the time and resources to help game is awesome, but it doesn't make the game yours either. Owning land means we follow laws from the feds down to township sometimes. Speaking with legislators, the feedback was pretty close to 50-50 on this bill, sometimes being on the losing side sucks but I don't believe it was a case of voices not being heard. I don't like that a wedge continues to be further driven between two sides of sportsmen. [/QUOTE]
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