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<blockquote data-quote="njsimonson" data-source="post: 248042" data-attributes="member: 1507"><p>The big takeaway from re-writing and including more language on guides and outfitters in the amendment, is that now it's even more of a "hunting bill" than it was before. The extensive modifications to Section 20.1 in the amended 2315 - the violation language, the prima facie hunting activity language, the hunting database, the hunting advisory group and the guide and outfitter references - in this new version totally blow that argument out of the water, and NONE of that new language favors hunters, the complete re-write of the guiding section in the amendment was the rotten cherry on the crap sundae this bill and amendment have created. </p><p></p><p>We all knew this was a hunting bill to start -- yet the proponents' rallying cry of "it's not a hunting bill!" "it's not a hunting bill!" echoed over and over and over again online, in the papers and at the hearing. Now with the amendment, there's no denying it. It IS a hunting bill, and it's a terrible one. </p><p></p><p>What I don't understand, if this was JUST about property rights, why would anyone be for this version because a) you're going to have to register your land in the database, but then, b) most likely, you're still going to have to put up signs to tell people to stay off anyway. Look to SWMN. There's a posted sign on just about every corner, and it's not required --why-- because landowners WANT people to know to stay off. So now this amendment with the proposed database has landowners thinking - "I won't have to post my land" and everything will be better. It won't. Criminals will still be out there, poachers will still poach, and with the confusion this bill will cause - honest hunters will get caught in the mix, and landowners who think they posted their acres online will as well (when they put in the wrong description, a tenant does it incorrectly or unauthorized, the database gets hacked, they accidentally click the wrong radio button, etc. etc.)</p><p></p><p>Stiffer Penalties. Better Education. Firearm Forfeiture for Trespass. A Posting Relief Fund for Landowners. </p><p></p><p>Those would solve the perceived and real problems at issue here. We've got to get back to the drawing board.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="njsimonson, post: 248042, member: 1507"] The big takeaway from re-writing and including more language on guides and outfitters in the amendment, is that now it's even more of a "hunting bill" than it was before. The extensive modifications to Section 20.1 in the amended 2315 - the violation language, the prima facie hunting activity language, the hunting database, the hunting advisory group and the guide and outfitter references - in this new version totally blow that argument out of the water, and NONE of that new language favors hunters, the complete re-write of the guiding section in the amendment was the rotten cherry on the crap sundae this bill and amendment have created. We all knew this was a hunting bill to start -- yet the proponents' rallying cry of "it's not a hunting bill!" "it's not a hunting bill!" echoed over and over and over again online, in the papers and at the hearing. Now with the amendment, there's no denying it. It IS a hunting bill, and it's a terrible one. What I don't understand, if this was JUST about property rights, why would anyone be for this version because a) you're going to have to register your land in the database, but then, b) most likely, you're still going to have to put up signs to tell people to stay off anyway. Look to SWMN. There's a posted sign on just about every corner, and it's not required --why-- because landowners WANT people to know to stay off. So now this amendment with the proposed database has landowners thinking - "I won't have to post my land" and everything will be better. It won't. Criminals will still be out there, poachers will still poach, and with the confusion this bill will cause - honest hunters will get caught in the mix, and landowners who think they posted their acres online will as well (when they put in the wrong description, a tenant does it incorrectly or unauthorized, the database gets hacked, they accidentally click the wrong radio button, etc. etc.) Stiffer Penalties. Better Education. Firearm Forfeiture for Trespass. A Posting Relief Fund for Landowners. Those would solve the perceived and real problems at issue here. We've got to get back to the drawing board. [/QUOTE]
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