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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shorthairman" data-source="post: 229232" data-attributes="member: 6223">I looked at this thread when it was first started just to see what it was, and I've noticed new posts recently so I quickly went back through.  I'm not going to say yes or no to legalizing pot.  But I do want to chime in on PG's "Most parents do a crap job of disciplining their children today. The current attitude is they want to be their best friend not their parent." I whole-hearted agree.  I am in education and it is unbelievable what parents think is cute, what they let their kids get away with, and the lack of discipline I see on a daily basis.  We even had a parent come to school and ask us to punish their kid at school for what they did at home so they did not have to be the ones who punished him.  THAT IS A TRUE STORY!  Parents want their kids to get a trophy for participating and it has to be the same size and color as the trophy the winner gets.  When their kid doesn't win, there is no "well you need to practice more often and harder." These kids want instant gratification, they want to look something up on the internet to find answers, even though everyone knows half the crap on the internet isn't right, they don't care because they just want any answer quickly so they don't have to work and maybe fail a couple times trying to come up with what is actually right or true. My grandparents (who are now all gone) grew up in the 30's and I've seen ole "Abe's tears" (that's a classic!).  They threw nothing away...they used it until there was nothing left to be used, and then it was parked in the trees instead of taken to the junk yard just incase there was the .001% chance maybe something else could be done with it.  My mom said growing up that Gma and Gpa would sit behind her and her brothers and sisters in church and if they weren't eyes straight ahead they got thumped on the back of the head or on the ear lobes.  I was spanked growing up (I often said if I didn't get a spanking everyday, it was because both my parents were gone that day), my brother and sisters got spanked, and 99.9% of the time we deserved it.  My oldest sister did not spank her kids because she said she didn't like getting spanked as a kid.  Well, I'm not going to get into my nieces and nephews, but lets just say I don't think it worked out quite like she expected, and maybe some discipline here or there would have helped. My boss tells us every year to "treat the kids that come to us as well as we treat the kids that come from us".  I want to kick him in the nuts every time I hear that because if I treated my students like I treated my own kids they couldn't handle it.  By no means am I saying I have raised perfect kids, or done an outstanding job of parenting, but by gosh, my kids don't backtalk, they don't interrupt, they no better than to ask again if the first time it was NO, they say please, and thank you, and if they don't they know they will hear about it.  I feel we have catered to all of the people that want everything, but don't want to do a dang thing to earn it, and now it is back-firing in our faces and we are scrambling around with duct tape trying to fix the leaks...Sorry so long...</blockquote>

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