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<blockquote data-quote="raider" data-source="post: 255219" data-attributes="member: 353">when my buddy rolled up he was walking around and bleeding and cussing - he walked to an ambulance a couple minutes later...&nbsp; if he had a gun, he would not have been out of the fight...&nbsp; if i ever have to pull on someone it is because i am in fear of my life...&nbsp; i want to eliminate the threat as fast as possible which takes stopping power...&nbsp; he also told me about 2 different guys that were shot by officers with 38's at close range that had bullets not penetrate the skull but follow it around and exit the skin in the rear of the head...&nbsp; shortly after that (90's i believe) the whole city mandated side arms with more stopping power...&nbsp; i've learned from him that considering ballistics and stopping power is just as important in self defense as it is in hunting... it made a lot of sense to me and i have made adjustments...&nbsp; not trying to ruffle any feathers, just trying to help people with information they may not have known...&nbsp; as with any life critical activity you should do your own research...&nbsp; good luck...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="raider, post: 255219, member: 353"] when my buddy rolled up he was walking around and bleeding and cussing - he walked to an ambulance a couple minutes later... if he had a gun, he would not have been out of the fight... if i ever have to pull on someone it is because i am in fear of my life... i want to eliminate the threat as fast as possible which takes stopping power... he also told me about 2 different guys that were shot by officers with 38's at close range that had bullets not penetrate the skull but follow it around and exit the skin in the rear of the head... shortly after that (90's i believe) the whole city mandated side arms with more stopping power... i've learned from him that considering ballistics and stopping power is just as important in self defense as it is in hunting... it made a lot of sense to me and i have made adjustments... not trying to ruffle any feathers, just trying to help people with information they may not have known... as with any life critical activity you should do your own research... good luck... [/QUOTE]

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