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<blockquote data-quote="Ristorapper" data-source="post: 237506" data-attributes="member: 810"><p>Sat up for hours the other night watching video and listening to theories on how this terrible accident ever happened. </p><p></p><p>Watched one video of an expert meteorologist on how the weather was the major factor. They(Edmund Fitzgerald and another ship that followed it the Arthur M Anderson) were basically expecting a noreaster so the two ships took a longer route from Duluth to Sioux Sainte Marie. They wanted to put there ships up close to the NE shore of Superior to get protection from the NE wind. The wind (up to 77mph) ended up blowing out of the NW and blew down the whole lake at the two ships heading SE towards Whitefish bay. Captain of the other ship (Arthur M Anderson) said it was the worst blow he had ever seen in his life. Turns out the coast guard asked this captain to go back out and look for survivors as the coast guard couldn't get any ships out there with the weather. That Captain and crew put their lives on the line and went out and looked after mulling it over for a time. Wow!! can you imagine. Turns out if that wind would have been forcast out of the NW to begin with, the ships would have taken the normal route from Duluth to SSM and made it before the big blow. interesting if ya got time on your hands to read up on it and watch videos for sure. I became interested in all this a few years ago after a fall visit to the Superior North Shore. </p><p></p><p>Meteorologist later covered many a day on either Nov. 10 or Nov. 11 on the many different years that there was bad weather on that Great Lake. STAY OFF THE WATER NOVEMBER 10 and 11 out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Interesting how he showed the weather built up over the two days the ships took to get to their destination. Max speed for the EF was 16 mph.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p>More on the theories, that she simply overturned, broke apart, ran aground, took on water. The interesting thing that happened is when the wind blew the two radar towers over on the EF. She lost radar and if you look on the map, there are a few places available to run aground. There was no evidence of running aground on half the EF that ended up on the bottom (500+ feet of water) of Lake Superior upside down. And no way to turn the other half of the ship over. Ore was spilled all over the ocean floor in a way to dispel the running aground theory. The possibility of the 7 ton hatches covering the ore coming loose and then those filling with water was gone over and possibly not the cause. Families of the crew said this would show their crew as irresponsible and that was a no no. And i think the hatches were in place on the half of the ship that was upright on the bottom of Superior. Other theories were the likely possibilities then so he said.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p><a href="https://www.pbs.org/video/university-place-storm-sank-edmund-fitzgerald/" target="_blank">https://www.pbs.org/video/university-place-storm-sank-edmund-fitzgerald/</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1NNFbR1W88" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1NNFbR1W88</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ristorapper, post: 237506, member: 810"] Sat up for hours the other night watching video and listening to theories on how this terrible accident ever happened. Watched one video of an expert meteorologist on how the weather was the major factor. They(Edmund Fitzgerald and another ship that followed it the Arthur M Anderson) were basically expecting a noreaster so the two ships took a longer route from Duluth to Sioux Sainte Marie. They wanted to put there ships up close to the NE shore of Superior to get protection from the NE wind. The wind (up to 77mph) ended up blowing out of the NW and blew down the whole lake at the two ships heading SE towards Whitefish bay. Captain of the other ship (Arthur M Anderson) said it was the worst blow he had ever seen in his life. Turns out the coast guard asked this captain to go back out and look for survivors as the coast guard couldn't get any ships out there with the weather. That Captain and crew put their lives on the line and went out and looked after mulling it over for a time. Wow!! can you imagine. Turns out if that wind would have been forcast out of the NW to begin with, the ships would have taken the normal route from Duluth to SSM and made it before the big blow. interesting if ya got time on your hands to read up on it and watch videos for sure. I became interested in all this a few years ago after a fall visit to the Superior North Shore. Meteorologist later covered many a day on either Nov. 10 or Nov. 11 on the many different years that there was bad weather on that Great Lake. STAY OFF THE WATER NOVEMBER 10 and 11 out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Interesting how he showed the weather built up over the two days the ships took to get to their destination. Max speed for the EF was 16 mph. [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] More on the theories, that she simply overturned, broke apart, ran aground, took on water. The interesting thing that happened is when the wind blew the two radar towers over on the EF. She lost radar and if you look on the map, there are a few places available to run aground. There was no evidence of running aground on half the EF that ended up on the bottom (500+ feet of water) of Lake Superior upside down. And no way to turn the other half of the ship over. Ore was spilled all over the ocean floor in a way to dispel the running aground theory. The possibility of the 7 ton hatches covering the ore coming loose and then those filling with water was gone over and possibly not the cause. Families of the crew said this would show their crew as irresponsible and that was a no no. And i think the hatches were in place on the half of the ship that was upright on the bottom of Superior. Other theories were the likely possibilities then so he said. [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] [URL]https://www.pbs.org/video/university-place-storm-sank-edmund-fitzgerald/[/URL] [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1NNFbR1W88[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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