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<blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 212532" data-attributes="member: 373"><p>Okay to get to the point of my question............so are these listed happenings which happened 240 years ago as well as again today a threat to the security of a free state? </p><p></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><em>If a govt breaks/ignores the laws our elected representatives pass is that a form of tyranny? </em></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><em>If a govt takes private property without just and fair compensation as our Constitution requires is that tyranny? </em></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><em>If a govt sets up "free speech areas" and arrests those protesting outside those boundries, is that tyranny? </em></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><em>If a govt jails people on trumped up charges because they covet their property, is that tyranny? </em></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><em>If a govt arrests and holds someone indefinately simply for speaking out against a govts actions and stating they will exercise their God given rights (now protected by the Constitution) is that tyranny? </em></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><em>If a govt colludes to silence those that speak out against their actions is that tyranny? </em></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><em>If a govt targets groups based on conservative/constitutional ideologies of freedom and private property rights is that tyranny? </em></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p>Rowdie the point of my question you seem to have missed is if "conservatives" are attacking those that state they are simply willing to exercise their 2nd amendment rights as they protest the actions of the govt I listed.........because making that statement damages the fight to protect our 2nd amendment rights..........what good is the 2nd amendment? </p><p></p><p>In short if those that are actually willing to embrace the 2nd for the purpose it was written are maligned by those claiming to support the 2nd........were do we stand? </p><p></p><p>People who never threatened anyone or fired a shot that were protesting those actions I listed have been condemned as "radicals" by people that claim to be conservative (both on and off this site) simply for stating they were willing to exercise their 2nd amendment rights. </p><p></p><p>So once again I ask, what is the 2nd amendment good for if the conservatives that claim to support it will not support those that say they are willing to actually exercise it for the intent it was written. </p><p></p><p>By no means am I calling for an armed insurrection, just trying to understand what power the 2nd still has when we are told by so called conservatives we should not even say we are willing to exercise our 2nd amendment rights to be politically correct and not inflame others so not to damage this 2nd amendment protections.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gst, post: 212532, member: 373"] Okay to get to the point of my question............so are these listed happenings which happened 240 years ago as well as again today a threat to the security of a free state? [COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][I]If a govt breaks/ignores the laws our elected representatives pass is that a form of tyranny? [/I][/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][I]If a govt takes private property without just and fair compensation as our Constitution requires is that tyranny? [/I][/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][I]If a govt sets up "free speech areas" and arrests those protesting outside those boundries, is that tyranny? [/I][/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][I]If a govt jails people on trumped up charges because they covet their property, is that tyranny? [/I][/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][I]If a govt arrests and holds someone indefinately simply for speaking out against a govts actions and stating they will exercise their God given rights (now protected by the Constitution) is that tyranny? [/I][/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][I]If a govt colludes to silence those that speak out against their actions is that tyranny? [/I][/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][I]If a govt targets groups based on conservative/constitutional ideologies of freedom and private property rights is that tyranny? [/I][/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] Rowdie the point of my question you seem to have missed is if "conservatives" are attacking those that state they are simply willing to exercise their 2nd amendment rights as they protest the actions of the govt I listed.........because making that statement damages the fight to protect our 2nd amendment rights..........what good is the 2nd amendment? In short if those that are actually willing to embrace the 2nd for the purpose it was written are maligned by those claiming to support the 2nd........were do we stand? People who never threatened anyone or fired a shot that were protesting those actions I listed have been condemned as "radicals" by people that claim to be conservative (both on and off this site) simply for stating they were willing to exercise their 2nd amendment rights. So once again I ask, what is the 2nd amendment good for if the conservatives that claim to support it will not support those that say they are willing to actually exercise it for the intent it was written. By no means am I calling for an armed insurrection, just trying to understand what power the 2nd still has when we are told by so called conservatives we should not even say we are willing to exercise our 2nd amendment rights to be politically correct and not inflame others so not to damage this 2nd amendment protections. [/QUOTE]
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