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<blockquote data-quote="guywhofishes" data-source="post: 143908" data-attributes="member: 337">chamber are big so that sucks. probably a little slower tooI bought one cuz I vacuum a LOT - the bags are also dirt cheap. Also I hated getting bad seals and the cleaning out fishy water/blood/etc. with traditional baggers. sometimes I forgot the fishy water and YUCK to discover that laterA chamber vacuum pulls a vacuum on everything - the bag and the food - so there's no equilibrium disruption - no driving force to squirt the liquid out the bag. A traditional unit pulls a vacuum only on the bag's mouth right?... leaving the pressure of the atmosphere to push hard on the bag and force liquids out the bag's mouth toward the sealer - so the seal must eventually take place with a nice film of liquid in the way if you are vacuuming juicy stuff. Result is crappy seals and cleanup of the drip tray inside the foodsaver all the time. Grrr...Once I go through the hassle of sealing I don't want to find poor seals 3 months later - I was always having to be a seal nazi with the foodsavers. Pissed me off to no end. Wiping the inner lips, resealing again, etc.Chamber vacuums aren't for everyone. But I love mine. I just bought 1000 ziplock style bags for jerkey, morel mushrooms, etc. - foods where it would be handy to be able to open/close for the next few hours/days once you've opened them. They are permanently sealed just like any vacuum bag unless/until the first time you open them - just like the jerky bags at minimart.a rare user should pass on the chamber IMO - it's for people who buy stuff in bulk and want to store meals, fish, game, etc. a lot[MEDIA=youtube]zD25NsqhMnY[/MEDIA]- - - Updated - - -I just bought 4 mil bags - the super thick quality stuff the frozen meat/steak/seafood joints use. 5-7 cents per bag. Foodsaver types are easily 5x-10x that cost I am pretty sure.- - - Updated - - -96 ft for $25 is a great price for traditional textured stuff KDM - about $.25/bag I think? Then again you have to cut/seal to make your bags too. I found that got old when a guy really wanted to &quot;go to town&quot; on a big batch of whatever.- - - Updated - - -4-6.5 cents each in bulk bulk <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />1&nbsp; &nbsp; | 30610&nbsp;&nbsp; | 6 x 10 4MIL Chamber Vacuum Sealer Bags -&nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $39.47&nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; $39.47 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; | Case of 1000&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; | 30754&nbsp;&nbsp; | 8 x 12 4MIL Chamber Vacuum Sealer Bags -&nbsp; &nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $64.73&nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; $64.73 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; | Case of 1000&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; | 50717&nbsp;&nbsp; | 6 x 10 Zipper Chamber Vacuum Sealer Bags -&nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $51.46&nbsp; |&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; $51.46 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; | Case of 1000&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<img src="http://cdnimg3.webstaurantstore.com/images/products/extra_large/14472/974083.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="guywhofishes, post: 143908, member: 337"] chamber are big so that sucks. probably a little slower too I bought one cuz I vacuum a LOT - the bags are also [U]dirt cheap[/U]. Also I hated getting bad seals and the cleaning out fishy water/blood/etc. with traditional baggers. sometimes I forgot the fishy water and YUCK to discover that later A chamber vacuum pulls a vacuum on everything - the bag and the food - so there's no equilibrium disruption - no driving force to squirt the liquid out the bag. A traditional unit pulls a vacuum only on the bag's mouth right?... leaving the pressure of the atmosphere to push hard on the bag and force liquids out the bag's mouth toward the sealer - so the seal must eventually take place with a nice film of liquid in the way if you are vacuuming juicy stuff. Result is crappy seals and cleanup of the drip tray inside the foodsaver all the time. Grrr... Once I go through the hassle of sealing I don't want to find poor seals 3 months later - I was always having to be a seal nazi with the foodsavers. Pissed me off to no end. Wiping the inner lips, resealing again, etc. Chamber vacuums aren't for everyone. But I love mine. I just bought 1000 ziplock style bags for jerkey, morel mushrooms, etc. - foods where it would be handy to be able to open/close for the next few hours/days once you've opened them. They are permanently sealed just like any vacuum bag unless/until the first time you open them - just like the jerky bags at minimart. a rare user should pass on the chamber IMO - it's for people who buy stuff in bulk and want to store meals, fish, game, etc. a lot [MEDIA=youtube]zD25NsqhMnY[/MEDIA] [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] I just bought 4 mil bags - the super thick quality stuff the frozen meat/steak/seafood joints use. 5-7 cents per bag. Foodsaver types are easily 5x-10x that cost I am pretty sure. [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] 96 ft for $25 is a great price for traditional textured stuff KDM - about $.25/bag I think? Then again you have to cut/seal to make your bags too. I found that got old when a guy really wanted to "go to town" on a big batch of whatever. [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] 4-6.5 cents each in bulk bulk ;) 1 | 30610 | 6 x 10 4MIL Chamber Vacuum Sealer Bags - | $39.47 | $39.47 | Case of 1000 1 | 30754 | 8 x 12 4MIL Chamber Vacuum Sealer Bags - | $64.73 | $64.73 | Case of 1000 1 | 50717 | 6 x 10 Zipper Chamber Vacuum Sealer Bags - | $51.46 | $51.46 | Case of 1000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [IMG]http://cdnimg3.webstaurantstore.com/images/products/extra_large/14472/974083.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE]

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