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<blockquote data-quote="svnmag" data-source="post: 151824" data-attributes="member: 330">I'll look it up thanks.&nbsp; On another note; pure Hevi at my last &quot;research&quot; is now a perfect sphere.&nbsp; When it first came out everyone doted the odd shapes were beneficial.&nbsp; Anyways, pure Hevi/perfect sphere at 1650 has no appreciable difference in energy at 40 yds than 1050fps.&nbsp; It just kills harder on your end.&nbsp; The one advantage is a shorter lead requirement which should not be noticeable with proper shotgunning.&nbsp; The phenomena may be magnified a bit if you're primarily a rifleman.&nbsp; Just know the charge ain't hitting harder at 40+.&nbsp; If you want more kinetic; up the shot size.My shooting improved when I finally got my head wrapped around this (it took a bit--I'm retarded) and stopped beating the hell out of myself with those Federal Hellfires in the M12. (FYI:&nbsp; Winchester would convert any 12ga Model 12 to 3in at the factory for cheap.)&nbsp; I was referring to those 2 3/4 Fed copper plated &quot;Premiums&quot; with hellacious velocity.&nbsp; They work but leave unnecessary red marks.&nbsp; Hard shot and good patterns are what kills. I freaking love these type threads.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="svnmag, post: 151824, member: 330"] I'll look it up thanks. On another note; pure Hevi at my last "research" is now a perfect sphere. When it first came out everyone doted the odd shapes were beneficial. Anyways, pure Hevi/perfect sphere at 1650 has no appreciable difference in energy at 40 yds than 1050fps. It just kills harder on your end. The one advantage is a shorter lead requirement which should not be noticeable with proper shotgunning. The phenomena may be magnified a bit if you're primarily a rifleman. Just know the charge ain't hitting harder at 40+. If you want more kinetic; up the shot size. My shooting improved when I finally got my head wrapped around this (it took a bit--I'm retarded) and stopped beating the hell out of myself with those Federal Hellfires in the M12. (FYI: Winchester would convert any 12ga Model 12 to 3in at the factory for cheap.) I was referring to those 2 3/4 Fed copper plated "Premiums" with hellacious velocity. They work but leave unnecessary red marks. Hard shot and good patterns are what kills. I freaking love these type threads. [/QUOTE]

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