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Message: <blockquote data-quote="johnr" data-source="post: 332645" data-attributes="member: 395"><p>I run a 2012 F250, with a 2020 engine, as the 2012 6.7liter shit the bed at 41,000 miles. I will run this pickup for another 10 years hopefully, as it pulls a camper 6-8 times a year, and otherwise takes up garage space. It has some higher end features, but nothing like the new ones I use for work. About every 3 - 4 years I get into a new f150 with most of the high tech hoopla for my work adventures. </p><p></p><p>I love everything about the new models, but absolutely hate that GD engine shut off bullshit they seem to all have now. WTF is the advantage of your vehicle at a stop sign, stop light, or wait at the drive thru, of it shutting the engine off? Seems every time it shuts down is within seconds of me going again. Dumbest idea in a vehicle ever, and the POS that invented it should be punched in the biscuit.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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