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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Obi-Wan" data-source="post: 289239" data-attributes="member: 709">You keep claiming  LEO only had hand guns  -   <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Kahl" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Kahl</a> - granted this is wikipedia but unless you can show something to contradict it this is what we have to go on.  There is some debate over who fired first, but the US Marshals Service claims that Yorie Kahl, Gordon Kahl's son, fired the first shot at Cheshire from behind a telephone pole. The shot struck Cheshire in the chest, fatally wounding him. Yorie then fired a second shot at Medina police officer Bradley Kapp but missed. Kapp returned fire with a shotgun and fired four times at Yorie, seriously wounding him in the chest and face. As Kapp turned from the downed Yorie, Gordon fired at least one round through the windshield of Kapp's vehicle, wounding Kapp in the forehead with glass fragments. As Kapp fell behind his car door, Gordon fired two or three more times, and a round struck and shattered Kapp's body armor. The fatally wounded Cheshire managed to fire off three rounds from his AR-15, all of which missed. Meanwhile, Scott Faul, taking cover in the nearby woods, fired at least seven rounds at Kapp and Cheshire's vehicle. One of Faul's shots hit the already wounded Cheshire a second time, and a bullet blew off Kapp's index finger. A third shot hit the pavement, and a piece of asphalt struck marshal Hopson in the ear, causing Hopson to suffer permanent brain damage. Wounded and out of ammunition, Kapp retreated to a ditch, but was unable to reload his shotgun due to the wound in his hand. With Kapp down, Gordon turned to face US Marshal Kenneth Muir and Medina police officer Steve Schnabel, just as Muir fired off one round from a .38 caliber revolver. Muir's shot hit the already wounded Yorie Kahl square in the chest, but the bullet struck a revolver Yorie wore on a shoulder holster, and therefore did not enter his heart. Before Muir could fire another shot, Kahl fired one round from his rifle at Muir, killing the marshal with a shot to the chest. Schnabel tried to return fire with his shotgun, but Gordon fired three more rounds at the officer as he tried to aim his weapon. One shot ricocheted, striking Schnabel in the back of the leg. The wounded Schnabel retreated to the side of the road and took cover in a ditch. The entire firefight lasted about 30 seconds." If they wanted a show where would that happen in a town or outside a small "  It hard to portray the story line you want if there are witnesses to contradict the version of events you are claiming.</blockquote>

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