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<blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 57932" data-attributes="member: 373"><p>I can imagine the frustration when looking for a spot to hunt, especially if one does not take the time or effort earlier on to establish relationships or even just go ask prior to opening day. </p><p></p><p>But step back and give this some thought if you would. In our operation I have three sons that hunt, I hunt, my Dad still hunts. I have land lords that hunt and ask their land be posted. They have a few relatives and friends that come up hunting some of which ask to hunt some of our lands. (what would you tell your landlords nephew). We have a couple friends that come and hunt and sometimes we get some military or young hunters we have hunt. </p><p></p><p>So if you/YOU are in that position would you post your land or not? </p><p></p><p>That's one reason land is posted. </p><p></p><p>I have had guys stop in and want to walk our trees immediately surrounding our house during deer season ot shoot a "big" buck they saw run into place. Would you give people you have never met permission to blast away with high power rifles in your back yard? When you ask if they have any doe tags cause you have a couple stands they could sit in and fill them, they get pissed you won;t let them shoot that buck. Respect and common sense. </p><p></p><p>Have had groups stop in two different times and Dad and I were both talking with people in different vehicles. The story was they wounded a deer and it ran in the trees and they were wondering if some guys could walk them to find it. Trouble was one vehicle said it was a buck the other said it was a doe.................longs story short they just wanted to chase a buck they saw run in the yard out to get a crack at it. </p><p></p><p>Doing chores, hear a gunshot right behind the place, me and the 6 year old kid drive out to see and heres a guy with a buck with a double main beam my 77 year old Dad was after laying along the road dead. Guy says he shot it on the road .....forgot about the foot of snow on the ground that showed the deer running off our land bleeding for 150 yards. </p><p></p><p>I don't tolerate lying very well. And it is common to hear similiar stories about the same people from neighbors. Sometimes there is a reason some people have a hard time finding access. </p><p></p><p>Point is for every "I got my ass chewed by a landowner" story, the guy living on these lands can tell you two of their own. At some point you just get tired of it and say the hell with it. </p><p></p><p>There are just way more people tied to some of these lands than there was one or two generations ago. I know there may be more asshole land owners but there are more asshole hunters too. </p><p></p><p>Even then, most guys are pretty decent. Maybe they may not have a spot for a party of 12 guys with 10 buck tags that pull in the yard in three pickups opening weekend but stop in during July, a Dad and kid stop out looking for a spot .............</p><p></p><p>And ya I know "sconis" bashing on here is a popular past time............but I have had some "sconis" stop in and ask permission and they are far more respectful and polite than many NDans. Same with some fellas from Missouri that come year after year as well.</p><p></p><p>30 years ago DU wasn;t trying to change our state laws thru ballot measures. </p><p></p><p>Times have changed, so have the people on both sides of this issue.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gst, post: 57932, member: 373"] I can imagine the frustration when looking for a spot to hunt, especially if one does not take the time or effort earlier on to establish relationships or even just go ask prior to opening day. But step back and give this some thought if you would. In our operation I have three sons that hunt, I hunt, my Dad still hunts. I have land lords that hunt and ask their land be posted. They have a few relatives and friends that come up hunting some of which ask to hunt some of our lands. (what would you tell your landlords nephew). We have a couple friends that come and hunt and sometimes we get some military or young hunters we have hunt. So if you/YOU are in that position would you post your land or not? That's one reason land is posted. I have had guys stop in and want to walk our trees immediately surrounding our house during deer season ot shoot a "big" buck they saw run into place. Would you give people you have never met permission to blast away with high power rifles in your back yard? When you ask if they have any doe tags cause you have a couple stands they could sit in and fill them, they get pissed you won;t let them shoot that buck. Respect and common sense. Have had groups stop in two different times and Dad and I were both talking with people in different vehicles. The story was they wounded a deer and it ran in the trees and they were wondering if some guys could walk them to find it. Trouble was one vehicle said it was a buck the other said it was a doe.................longs story short they just wanted to chase a buck they saw run in the yard out to get a crack at it. Doing chores, hear a gunshot right behind the place, me and the 6 year old kid drive out to see and heres a guy with a buck with a double main beam my 77 year old Dad was after laying along the road dead. Guy says he shot it on the road .....forgot about the foot of snow on the ground that showed the deer running off our land bleeding for 150 yards. I don't tolerate lying very well. And it is common to hear similiar stories about the same people from neighbors. Sometimes there is a reason some people have a hard time finding access. Point is for every "I got my ass chewed by a landowner" story, the guy living on these lands can tell you two of their own. At some point you just get tired of it and say the hell with it. There are just way more people tied to some of these lands than there was one or two generations ago. I know there may be more asshole land owners but there are more asshole hunters too. Even then, most guys are pretty decent. Maybe they may not have a spot for a party of 12 guys with 10 buck tags that pull in the yard in three pickups opening weekend but stop in during July, a Dad and kid stop out looking for a spot ............. And ya I know "sconis" bashing on here is a popular past time............but I have had some "sconis" stop in and ask permission and they are far more respectful and polite than many NDans. Same with some fellas from Missouri that come year after year as well. 30 years ago DU wasn;t trying to change our state laws thru ballot measures. Times have changed, so have the people on both sides of this issue. [/QUOTE]
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