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<blockquote data-quote="shorthairsrus" data-source="post: 198738" data-attributes="member: 219">How easy you guys forget ------- Mocha --- how many weeks did she live outside in bismarck - eating garbage and mice for a living during the coldest month of the year.&nbsp; Allen - -coats kill&nbsp; that is a fact ---- a GSP will outrun outgun outlast any lab in the field period.&nbsp; &nbsp; DONT USE A COAT YOU WILL BURN THE KIDNEYS.&nbsp;&nbsp; Allens dog may stop and have a breather -- the shorthair will keep going even when your on break- the coats are made out of material that doesnt breath and burns them up.&nbsp; They dont need a coat- period.&nbsp;&nbsp; the energy system in a GSP is always going.&nbsp; I have hunted them side by side - the lab is in the kennel period while the Gsp will run till they kill themselves.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Hunt for 7 days straight - bring a lab and shorthair - doesnt matter how cold --- the lab will need to rest -- Guaranteed.&nbsp;&nbsp; They just dont have the engineering to last for days in the field like a shorthair.&nbsp; They can outswim a shorthair -and they can swim cold water - if your a duck hunter get a lab.&nbsp; If your going to hunt upland - bring a series of flushers and a couple shorthairs to run the group.&nbsp;&nbsp; Plan on resting your flushers and leave the shorthairs work.&nbsp;&nbsp; Allergies - labs have a oily coat - GSP do not - depends i suppose as to what type of allergy.&nbsp;&nbsp; We are talking about a GERMAN engineered animal.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you buy one -- all i can say is hang on for your life.&nbsp;&nbsp; Its like comparing a corvette vs a golf cart.&nbsp;&nbsp; Talk to people that own shorthairs.Socialization - a must.&nbsp; &nbsp; Heated garage preferred-- socializing them inside your home is better -- Treat em like you would treat your corvette-- they just ran 10X what your flusher did - limit arthritis.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="shorthairsrus, post: 198738, member: 219"] How easy you guys forget ------- Mocha --- how many weeks did she live outside in bismarck - eating garbage and mice for a living during the coldest month of the year. Allen - -coats kill that is a fact ---- a GSP will outrun outgun outlast any lab in the field period. DONT USE A COAT YOU WILL BURN THE KIDNEYS. Allens dog may stop and have a breather -- the shorthair will keep going even when your on break- the coats are made out of material that doesnt breath and burns them up. They dont need a coat- period. the energy system in a GSP is always going. I have hunted them side by side - the lab is in the kennel period while the Gsp will run till they kill themselves. Hunt for 7 days straight - bring a lab and shorthair - doesnt matter how cold --- the lab will need to rest -- Guaranteed. They just dont have the engineering to last for days in the field like a shorthair. They can outswim a shorthair -and they can swim cold water - if your a duck hunter get a lab. If your going to hunt upland - bring a series of flushers and a couple shorthairs to run the group. Plan on resting your flushers and leave the shorthairs work. Allergies - labs have a oily coat - GSP do not - depends i suppose as to what type of allergy. We are talking about a GERMAN engineered animal. If you buy one -- all i can say is hang on for your life. Its like comparing a corvette vs a golf cart. Talk to people that own shorthairs. Socialization - a must. Heated garage preferred-- socializing them inside your home is better -- Treat em like you would treat your corvette-- they just ran 10X what your flusher did - limit arthritis. [/QUOTE]

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