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<blockquote data-quote="shorthairsrus" data-source="post: 198743" data-attributes="member: 219">Kurt -- I know i am tooting a horn here and half what i say is BS when it comes to a shorthair is bs.&nbsp;&nbsp; but i would like to see the basis behind not running a flusher up the middle:&nbsp; Example:&nbsp;&nbsp; Ravine&nbsp; - we do alot of this out west --------- the brush is in the middle and on the sides&nbsp; The pointer being agile has to work the sides and keeping the birds in check --- I want them pinned, pointed or running towards the flushers&nbsp; ---- running a bird up and away or running in general is not an option.&nbsp;&nbsp; From what your saying is have a shorthair up the middle and have her point into the thicket and then i am supposed to walk down and flush the bird -- while a springer sits on the outside and looks at me like what did you hire me for.&nbsp; Then when the bird flushes - i dont see it because of the brush -----no thanks.&nbsp;&nbsp; Maybe its just that i started hunting in the early 70s that i dont get it.- - - Updated - - -plus i want that flusher to retrieve in the thicket -- they r without a doubt a better retriever in the thick- - - Updated - - -Alot of people hunt behind poorly trained and poor pedigree shorthairs and they form an opinion.&nbsp;&nbsp; Hunt behind a good dog you will be happy. Last hunt this Friday -- -gonna be a good one</blockquote>

[QUOTE="shorthairsrus, post: 198743, member: 219"] Kurt -- I know i am tooting a horn here and half what i say is BS when it comes to a shorthair is bs. but i would like to see the basis behind not running a flusher up the middle: Example: Ravine - we do alot of this out west ------- -- the brush is in the middle and on the sides The pointer being agile has to work the sides and keeping the birds in check --- I want them pinned, pointed or running towards the flushers ---- running a bird up and away or running in general is not an option. From what your saying is have a shorthair up the middle and have her point into the thicket and then i am supposed to walk down and flush the bird -- while a springer sits on the outside and looks at me like what did you hire me for. Then when the bird flushes - i dont see it because of the brush -----no thanks. Maybe its just that i started hunting in the early 70s that i dont get it. [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] plus i want that flusher to retrieve in the thicket -- they r without a doubt a better retriever in the thick [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] Alot of people hunt behind poorly trained and poor pedigree shorthairs and they form an opinion. Hunt behind a good dog you will be happy. Last hunt this Friday -- -gonna be a good one [/QUOTE]

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