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<blockquote data-quote="Weaver" data-source="post: 432111" data-attributes="member: 8377"><p>You‘re correct in some aspects. Of course grievance with shit hunters who have no respect for law or landowners wishes for whatever property he/ she may own . I also don’t appreciate the State creating a law that takes away the fundamental freedom all landowners/ homeowners etc expect for a special interest group. If the state passed a law requiring you to permit people to come into your home/ yard uninvited ( outside of law enforcement) for any reason you would have issues with it as well. And same law gets turned into a loophole to access property. Grievance against wildlife is the unintended consequence of farmers/ ranchers having their hands tied . I for one , still do my best to create great wildlife habitat but choke down anything near roads as the area is full of road hunters looking for the dash and grab opportunities . The roads here are littered with shells every year ( posted on both sides so illegal to hunt). So I focus on building what I can far enough away from roadsides to deter that practice. Yes hundreds of acres of habitat are lost because of that because farmers are put off by continual disrespect etc . But to give that law breaker free access to your posted land ( when they shot that bird in the ditch ) or shot that deer from the road is just over the top and encourages that behavior as the law goes to them.</p><p>are you a landowner? If so how does it make you feel when someone drops a group of people at your gate and they proceed to trespass your land because they use a wounded deer story and proceed to flush your property to party members on the other side to shoot whatever comes out? And the State gave them that right as you have no way of knowing ( unless you observed it all) whether they are truthful or not? It Is so easy for them to shoot a deer say 200 yards into your property and walk right in to claim it was shot elsewhere etc and if you didn’t see it firsthand there’s nothing you can do. I know of only ND and Iowa and now believe Minn also passed that law and landowners are now finding out what that means to them. Posting only keeps out the ethical people of course ( But when the law is written giving lawbreakers the edge that’s too much) I’m not sure what constitutes a shit landowner to you ( doesn’t everyone deserve the right to manage their property the way they want to) ? Don’t you do that with your home / vehicle etc. etc? Does that make you shit?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Weaver, post: 432111, member: 8377"] You‘re correct in some aspects. Of course grievance with shit hunters who have no respect for law or landowners wishes for whatever property he/ she may own . I also don’t appreciate the State creating a law that takes away the fundamental freedom all landowners/ homeowners etc expect for a special interest group. If the state passed a law requiring you to permit people to come into your home/ yard uninvited ( outside of law enforcement) for any reason you would have issues with it as well. And same law gets turned into a loophole to access property. Grievance against wildlife is the unintended consequence of farmers/ ranchers having their hands tied . I for one , still do my best to create great wildlife habitat but choke down anything near roads as the area is full of road hunters looking for the dash and grab opportunities . The roads here are littered with shells every year ( posted on both sides so illegal to hunt). So I focus on building what I can far enough away from roadsides to deter that practice. Yes hundreds of acres of habitat are lost because of that because farmers are put off by continual disrespect etc . But to give that law breaker free access to your posted land ( when they shot that bird in the ditch ) or shot that deer from the road is just over the top and encourages that behavior as the law goes to them. are you a landowner? If so how does it make you feel when someone drops a group of people at your gate and they proceed to trespass your land because they use a wounded deer story and proceed to flush your property to party members on the other side to shoot whatever comes out? And the State gave them that right as you have no way of knowing ( unless you observed it all) whether they are truthful or not? It Is so easy for them to shoot a deer say 200 yards into your property and walk right in to claim it was shot elsewhere etc and if you didn’t see it firsthand there’s nothing you can do. I know of only ND and Iowa and now believe Minn also passed that law and landowners are now finding out what that means to them. Posting only keeps out the ethical people of course ( But when the law is written giving lawbreakers the edge that’s too much) I’m not sure what constitutes a shit landowner to you ( doesn’t everyone deserve the right to manage their property the way they want to) ? Don’t you do that with your home / vehicle etc. etc? Does that make you shit? [/QUOTE]
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