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<blockquote data-quote="Weaver" data-source="post: 432222" data-attributes="member: 8377"><p>You must live in a special place then or are non observant to what goes on. I know plenty of farmers</p><p>who this has happened to ,myself included. I had a husband/ wife pair try it a couple years back. He dropped her at South fence and he went to North end to see if she flushed anything to him. When I asked him why they were there he said “ oh we are looking for a wounded deer”. He had his rifle beside him in the truck ready to go. First thing he said after that is “She doesn’t have any weapons , not even a knife” . Doing what you may call a legal flush granted by the state of ND .</p><p>I had been there over an hour already and no shots were heard by any of the entire family and we were all outdoors in calm balmy weather. No blood trail anywhere and we searched hard. So why doesn’t ND trust it’s citizens to do the right thing if indeed there is an honest“unfortunate circumstance”? It has a force to comply order to special interest group.</p><p>1 of only 2 or 3 states to seize trespass control from landowners and pass to anyone who ventures along with a story to tell.</p><p>Are all the other states wrong in giving its citizens full constitutional powers granted to them To control who enters their land? </p><p>Do you know how hard that law makes it for the landowner who pops over the hill to see orange blazers in his posted field and he has no idea if someone shot into his land at an animal or one actually did go in wounded to navigate?</p><p>if it was an illegal kill no amount of yelling or hopping up and down will do them any good as the State has granted access to retrieve and they can “seize” control of that portion of land for as long as they please. The burden of proof now falls on you ( the landowner ) and only you.</p><p>Yes I had that happen to me as well. A couple shot a deer on my posted land from the roadway and my brother and I witnessed it from a hilltop. On confrontation with them first thing out of their mouths was “ oh we wounded it a mile over there “ gut shot it they said. So many things wrong and illegal they did. shooting from roadway onto posted land , drove vehicle in with weapons and finished it off. Threw in pickup bed without tagging to dash out. </p><p> This law encourages this kind of behavior because it’s a go to excuse over and over again. Without the wording of that law incidences would decrease dramatically as there would be no get out of jail free card to play anymore. The law has been exploited/ abused to death. Any game warden will tell you how many times he has had the wounded somewhere else deer story given to them as an excuse. Number 1 of all time by far.</p><p>If the hunter has nothing to hide get permission from the landowner or whomever posts it. The majority of the United States does it this way. The State shouldn’t be stripping it’s citizens of the constitutional right to grant trespass access.</p><p>like I said before what group comes next to your door to force access to your land?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Weaver, post: 432222, member: 8377"] You must live in a special place then or are non observant to what goes on. I know plenty of farmers who this has happened to ,myself included. I had a husband/ wife pair try it a couple years back. He dropped her at South fence and he went to North end to see if she flushed anything to him. When I asked him why they were there he said “ oh we are looking for a wounded deer”. He had his rifle beside him in the truck ready to go. First thing he said after that is “She doesn’t have any weapons , not even a knife” . Doing what you may call a legal flush granted by the state of ND . I had been there over an hour already and no shots were heard by any of the entire family and we were all outdoors in calm balmy weather. No blood trail anywhere and we searched hard. So why doesn’t ND trust it’s citizens to do the right thing if indeed there is an honest“unfortunate circumstance”? It has a force to comply order to special interest group. 1 of only 2 or 3 states to seize trespass control from landowners and pass to anyone who ventures along with a story to tell. Are all the other states wrong in giving its citizens full constitutional powers granted to them To control who enters their land? Do you know how hard that law makes it for the landowner who pops over the hill to see orange blazers in his posted field and he has no idea if someone shot into his land at an animal or one actually did go in wounded to navigate? if it was an illegal kill no amount of yelling or hopping up and down will do them any good as the State has granted access to retrieve and they can “seize” control of that portion of land for as long as they please. The burden of proof now falls on you ( the landowner ) and only you. Yes I had that happen to me as well. A couple shot a deer on my posted land from the roadway and my brother and I witnessed it from a hilltop. On confrontation with them first thing out of their mouths was “ oh we wounded it a mile over there “ gut shot it they said. So many things wrong and illegal they did. shooting from roadway onto posted land , drove vehicle in with weapons and finished it off. Threw in pickup bed without tagging to dash out. This law encourages this kind of behavior because it’s a go to excuse over and over again. Without the wording of that law incidences would decrease dramatically as there would be no get out of jail free card to play anymore. The law has been exploited/ abused to death. Any game warden will tell you how many times he has had the wounded somewhere else deer story given to them as an excuse. Number 1 of all time by far. If the hunter has nothing to hide get permission from the landowner or whomever posts it. The majority of the United States does it this way. The State shouldn’t be stripping it’s citizens of the constitutional right to grant trespass access. like I said before what group comes next to your door to force access to your land? [/QUOTE]
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