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<blockquote data-quote="Weaver" data-source="post: 432754" data-attributes="member: 8377"><p>Thanks for the response. If I was a member of a group I wouldn't be ashamed to say so. Again I am not.</p><p>Again I am not looking to add a new law but actually get rid of or amend an existing one.</p><p>Please don't include me in your summation as to we will all just be fine because that will not be the case.</p><p>I have had 4 incidences in the past 5 years with this law being used as an excuse for their activity. I don't know how many others I didn't catch or find out about. You may find that hard to believe but I find it equally hard to believe that no other landowner on this forum/state hasn't had this happen to them.</p><p>I don't know if their behavior stems from opportunity or spite but that doesn't matter, just the fact it does happen. I'm sure they are just as cleaver in the rest of the state as here.</p><p>The fact from my personal experience is the law ( although well intended) has been circumvented by many in this area to either shoot over fence lines to retrieve ( in hopes act wasn't witnessed) to enjoy a free retrieval without question or The act of dropping party members at property lines to flush an area known to contain game animals to either disperse to outside legal area or to waiting party members.</p><p>A landowner under this current ruling has no idea when he crests the hill and is surprised to see people on his posted property as to whether he has a trespass situation or a simple retrieve .</p><p>It's unsettling to a lot of landowners when this occurs.</p><p>It's can be unsettling to other hunters as well when they encounter others in the field that they had no idea might be there whether it be a landowner/family hunting or single permission parties.</p><p>A law is supposed to be balanced for the good of all...this one has a 100 lb weight on one side and nothing on the other.</p><p>I do everything by the book regarding posting. Clear legible signs/signed sometimes even dated placed at required distances/borders etc. It just gives them something to read when they walk past them. With the current law it has been made easy to do.</p><p>Why can't we as landowners know who you are ? You know us.</p><p>This law made up just for the extremely rare occurrence ( from feedback here some in 40 years some 50 +) has never had it happen to them where they had a need to access. And the reduce the ratio even further we know most landowners will gladly give permission or even assist them in a legal harvest. A law for the equally rare occasion when a 1 in 1000 landowner might not be obliging. Wow . Aren't you the one engaging in your hobby? Shouldn't you be the one reaching out with some effort to contact landowners ( so they aren't getting surprises) ? If no contact can be made couldn't any form of law enforcement assist with contact. Most have quick access to locating owners, or so they may record names /details in case a request for investigation in matter is sought.</p><p>No Sorry Trip; The abuse of this law will continue for me and some of my farmer friends unless a fair solution to all is reached.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Weaver, post: 432754, member: 8377"] Thanks for the response. If I was a member of a group I wouldn't be ashamed to say so. Again I am not. Again I am not looking to add a new law but actually get rid of or amend an existing one. Please don't include me in your summation as to we will all just be fine because that will not be the case. I have had 4 incidences in the past 5 years with this law being used as an excuse for their activity. I don't know how many others I didn't catch or find out about. You may find that hard to believe but I find it equally hard to believe that no other landowner on this forum/state hasn't had this happen to them. I don't know if their behavior stems from opportunity or spite but that doesn't matter, just the fact it does happen. I'm sure they are just as cleaver in the rest of the state as here. The fact from my personal experience is the law ( although well intended) has been circumvented by many in this area to either shoot over fence lines to retrieve ( in hopes act wasn't witnessed) to enjoy a free retrieval without question or The act of dropping party members at property lines to flush an area known to contain game animals to either disperse to outside legal area or to waiting party members. A landowner under this current ruling has no idea when he crests the hill and is surprised to see people on his posted property as to whether he has a trespass situation or a simple retrieve . It's unsettling to a lot of landowners when this occurs. It's can be unsettling to other hunters as well when they encounter others in the field that they had no idea might be there whether it be a landowner/family hunting or single permission parties. A law is supposed to be balanced for the good of all...this one has a 100 lb weight on one side and nothing on the other. I do everything by the book regarding posting. Clear legible signs/signed sometimes even dated placed at required distances/borders etc. It just gives them something to read when they walk past them. With the current law it has been made easy to do. Why can't we as landowners know who you are ? You know us. This law made up just for the extremely rare occurrence ( from feedback here some in 40 years some 50 +) has never had it happen to them where they had a need to access. And the reduce the ratio even further we know most landowners will gladly give permission or even assist them in a legal harvest. A law for the equally rare occasion when a 1 in 1000 landowner might not be obliging. Wow . Aren't you the one engaging in your hobby? Shouldn't you be the one reaching out with some effort to contact landowners ( so they aren't getting surprises) ? If no contact can be made couldn't any form of law enforcement assist with contact. Most have quick access to locating owners, or so they may record names /details in case a request for investigation in matter is sought. No Sorry Trip; The abuse of this law will continue for me and some of my farmer friends unless a fair solution to all is reached. [/QUOTE]
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