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<blockquote data-quote="deleted member" data-source="post: 408938" data-attributes="member: 816">she mentioned two reasons for killing that dog.&nbsp; it fucked up a hunt by running all over the place and it killed a chicken.&nbsp; big surprise.&nbsp; an untrained dog/pointer refuses to stay close and then when let out in a farm yard, kills exactly what its been trained to hunt.&nbsp; both of those situations are relatively easily rectifiable and/or excusable.&nbsp; the first is almost expected of any untrained puppy.&nbsp; my first 2 springers 25 years ago had that issue.&nbsp;&nbsp; wrecked an entire first year of hunting with them.&nbsp; then i was introduced to a shock collar.&nbsp; best hunting tool ever and have never had that problem ever since. i also have chickens and ducks.&nbsp; nearly every dog that's ever showed up at my house... including my own... has killed at least one of my chickens or ducks.&nbsp; with rare exception, it doesn't happen twice.&nbsp; most even remotely trained dogs respond very well to a good ass whipping or scolding.&nbsp; especially, if caught in the act.&nbsp; my now 14 year old springer did have to run around with a dead duck tied to her neck for about a day when she didn't learn after the first time.&nbsp; but, never again after that. and they roam all day in the yard with those birds.&nbsp; more than a few friends can spend all day drinking with their dogs running loose with no care for possible dead fowl.&nbsp; regardless, i could hardly care less about a chicken or duck or two and certainly wouldn't shoot a dog over it.&nbsp; same with a single ruined hunt.&nbsp; kennel the dog up for the rest of the day and do a little training or get a collar before the next hunt. i don't judge people for killing animals really.&nbsp; they are just animals and everyone has a different thresh hold for this type of behavior.&nbsp; but, her thresh hold seems on the extreme low end in my opinion.&nbsp; her quick decision to take the easy route (shooting the dog), unwillingness to take the harder route (actually training the stupid dog) and decision to put it in the book for what she appears to view as a positive (almost bragging?)... combined... are definitely enough to affect my opinion of her.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="deleted member, post: 408938, member: 816"] she mentioned two reasons for killing that dog. it fucked up a hunt by running all over the place and it killed a chicken. big surprise. an untrained dog/pointer refuses to stay close and then when let out in a farm yard, kills exactly what its been trained to hunt. both of those situations are relatively easily rectifiable and/or excusable. the first is almost expected of any untrained puppy. my first 2 springers 25 years ago had that issue. wrecked an entire first year of hunting with them. then i was introduced to a shock collar. best hunting tool ever and have never had that problem ever since. i also have chickens and ducks. nearly every dog that's ever showed up at my house... including my own... has killed at least one of my chickens or ducks. with rare exception, it doesn't happen twice. most even remotely trained dogs respond very well to a good ass whipping or scolding. especially, if caught in the act. my now 14 year old springer did have to run around with a dead duck tied to her neck for about a day when she didn't learn after the first time. but, never again after that. and they roam all day in the yard with those birds. more than a few friends can spend all day drinking with their dogs running loose with no care for possible dead fowl. regardless, i could hardly care less about a chicken or duck or two and certainly wouldn't shoot a dog over it. same with a single ruined hunt. kennel the dog up for the rest of the day and do a little training or get a collar before the next hunt. i don't judge people for killing animals really. they are just animals and everyone has a different thresh hold for this type of behavior. but, her thresh hold seems on the extreme low end in my opinion. her quick decision to take the easy route (shooting the dog), unwillingness to take the harder route (actually training the stupid dog) and decision to put it in the book for what she appears to view as a positive (almost bragging?)... combined... are definitely enough to affect my opinion of her. [/QUOTE]

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