What's new
Forums
Members
Resources
Whopper Club
Politics
Pics
Videos
Fishing Reports
Classifieds
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Members
Resources
Whopper Club
Politics
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Forums
General
General Discussion
Legislature Debates Deadly Force Bill
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="tikkalover" data-source="post: 154568" data-attributes="member: 600"><p>With an increase in crime in North Dakota since the oil boom, many residents have expressed concerns about safety on their own property.</p><p></p><p> Right now at the 65th Legislative Assembly of North Dakota, bill 2315 is being deliberated.</p><p> If passed, this bill will justify the use of deadly force in the case of unlawful entry to property.</p><p>Emily Medalen spent the morning at the legislature hearing both sides of the argument.</p><p></p><p> (Emily Medalen, KX News)</p><p> The Senate Judiciary Committee is getting mixed reviews on bill 2315, which discusses use of deadly force in defense of premises and property.</p><p> This bill gives more leeway on property owners to use deadly force in the case of trespassing, as well as preventing carrying away or damaging property.</p><p></p><p> (Christopher Dodson, Against Bill 2315)<span style="color: #FF0000"> "The other parts of the bill remove the duty to retreat in the law. The duty to retreat is there because it means if it's not necessary, you can't intentionally kill."</span></p><p><span style="color: #FF0000"></span></p><p> (Emily Medalen, KX News)</p><p> Dodson says that the bill shouldn't be passed because it will give too much free reign to property owners who may deal with burglary or invasion.</p><p> Some others, however, see things a bit differently.</p><p></p><p> (John Ertelt, For Bill 2315) "Crime in North Dakota is out of control. It's not getting out of control, it's out of control."</p><p></p><p> (Emily Medalen, KX News)</p><p> Ertelt feels that the current law isn't doing enough to prevent people from committing these types of crimes.</p><p></p><p> (John Ertelt, For Bill 2315) "These criminals are emboldened because of the low penalties."</p><p></p><p> (Emily Medalen, KX News)</p><p> One aspect both sides agreed on is that trespassing and burglary are not crimes that should be taken lightly.</p><p> However, those against the bill feel that the use of deadly force is not necessary in cases where safely retreating is an option.</p><p></p><p> (Christopher Dodson, Against Bill 2315) <span style="color: #FF0000">"Just because someone is a wrongdoer, doesn't mean you have the right to kill them."</span></p><p><span style="color: #FF0000"></span></p><p> (Emily Medalen)</p><p> Ertelt points out that passing this bill may simply make criminals second-guess a decision to unlawfully enter someone else's property or home.</p><p></p><p> (John Ertelt, For Bill 2315) "It will send a message to the criminal element that the law abiding citizen of North Dakota will protect their property if necessary, they will use force to protect their property, and they are no longer going to tolerate this increase of crime."</p><p></p><p> (Emily Medalen, KX News)</p><p> Deliberations will continue on the bill for the next several weeks.</p><p> In Bismarck, Emily Medalen, KX News.</p><p></p><p> For more information, or to read the bill as it stands, visit legiscan.com.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000FF">Who the titty sprinkles is this Christopher Dodson?<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite4" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":mad:" /> I dare him to come into my house uninvited. The first thing he will hear is my 357 going off, and then I will ask him if he wants to leave. </span></p><p><span style="color: #0000FF"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tikkalover, post: 154568, member: 600"] With an increase in crime in North Dakota since the oil boom, many residents have expressed concerns about safety on their own property. Right now at the 65th Legislative Assembly of North Dakota, bill 2315 is being deliberated. If passed, this bill will justify the use of deadly force in the case of unlawful entry to property. Emily Medalen spent the morning at the legislature hearing both sides of the argument. (Emily Medalen, KX News) The Senate Judiciary Committee is getting mixed reviews on bill 2315, which discusses use of deadly force in defense of premises and property. This bill gives more leeway on property owners to use deadly force in the case of trespassing, as well as preventing carrying away or damaging property. (Christopher Dodson, Against Bill 2315)[COLOR=#FF0000] "The other parts of the bill remove the duty to retreat in the law. The duty to retreat is there because it means if it's not necessary, you can't intentionally kill." [/COLOR] (Emily Medalen, KX News) Dodson says that the bill shouldn't be passed because it will give too much free reign to property owners who may deal with burglary or invasion. Some others, however, see things a bit differently. (John Ertelt, For Bill 2315) "Crime in North Dakota is out of control. It's not getting out of control, it's out of control." (Emily Medalen, KX News) Ertelt feels that the current law isn't doing enough to prevent people from committing these types of crimes. (John Ertelt, For Bill 2315) "These criminals are emboldened because of the low penalties." (Emily Medalen, KX News) One aspect both sides agreed on is that trespassing and burglary are not crimes that should be taken lightly. However, those against the bill feel that the use of deadly force is not necessary in cases where safely retreating is an option. (Christopher Dodson, Against Bill 2315) [COLOR=#FF0000]"Just because someone is a wrongdoer, doesn't mean you have the right to kill them." [/COLOR] (Emily Medalen) Ertelt points out that passing this bill may simply make criminals second-guess a decision to unlawfully enter someone else's property or home. (John Ertelt, For Bill 2315) "It will send a message to the criminal element that the law abiding citizen of North Dakota will protect their property if necessary, they will use force to protect their property, and they are no longer going to tolerate this increase of crime." (Emily Medalen, KX News) Deliberations will continue on the bill for the next several weeks. In Bismarck, Emily Medalen, KX News. For more information, or to read the bill as it stands, visit legiscan.com. [COLOR=#0000FF]Who the titty sprinkles is this Christopher Dodson?:mad: I dare him to come into my house uninvited. The first thing he will hear is my 357 going off, and then I will ask him if he wants to leave. [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
Verification
What is the most common fish caught on this site?
Post reply
Recent Posts
Predictions for deer season 26
Latest: Rut2much
17 minutes ago
Sucker Minnows
Latest: Weekender
21 minutes ago
Boat carpet
Latest: Rut2much
Today at 8:56 AM
What are you listening to these days?
Latest: svnmag
Today at 1:39 AM
A.I. Are you Excited?
Latest: Lycanthrope
Yesterday at 10:47 PM
Tea/Laxative?! YT
Latest: svnmag
Yesterday at 9:27 PM
ND bighorn sheep lottery
Latest: SDMF
Yesterday at 8:37 PM
Spring has sprung-
Latest: Eatsleeptrap
Yesterday at 7:06 PM
Training for the outdoors
Latest: risingsun
Yesterday at 6:10 PM
N
Tritoon on a pontoon trailer?
Latest: NodakBob
Yesterday at 3:48 PM
Buying gold and silver.
Latest: guywhofishes
Yesterday at 1:21 PM
K
Fishing in Valley City
Latest: kyle12bravo
Yesterday at 1:00 PM
Yellowstone
Latest: tikkalover
Yesterday at 11:40 AM
Reloader 26 For Sale
Latest: luvcatchingbass
Yesterday at 7:09 AM
Auroras from last night
Latest: 5575
Sunday at 11:04 PM
Missouri River Bismarck area
Latest: Allen
Sunday at 10:41 PM
A-10 2026 YT
Latest: svnmag
Sunday at 8:57 PM
W
Burleigh co. Ditches debate
Latest: woodduck30
Sunday at 7:47 PM
L
Chuck Norris~
Latest: LBrandt
Sunday at 6:13 PM
I finally won a gun
Latest: cooter00
Sunday at 3:26 PM
Taylor Sheridan
Latest: Vollmer
Sunday at 10:05 AM
YT Divorce Eggs
Latest: svnmag
Saturday at 9:15 PM
NFL News (Vikings)
Latest: Eatsleeptrap
Saturday at 7:33 PM
Friends of NDA
Forums
General
General Discussion
Legislature Debates Deadly Force Bill
Top
Bottom