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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SLE" data-source="post: 402498" data-attributes="member: 3889">I agree with the others, if your main premise is a 1,000 yard gun for hitting steel it's hard to argue against the 6-7 mm calibers. Great balistics with reasonable recoil. My prefrence is in the PRC's but even a good 308 or 7mm08 will do the trick if setup right. There's lots of great factory guns that are pretty damn accurate these days and like others have said, you probably need to spend about as much on the scope as the gun, atleast to a point. Lots of guns will accurately shoot to a 1,000 yards, but if you don't have a good dial-able scope that tracts reliably and accurately, and has enough zoom and clarity, then it's all for nothing.Not long ago I had a similar goal, 1000+ yard gun for steel, but I also wanted light weight (<10lbs) to be used as a long range hunting rifle. Something that would be good for deer and antelope out to 700-800 yards and 500 or so for elk; and I know I'm not a re-loader, so wanted to be able to do it with factory ammo. Ended up with a Fierce Firearms Carbon CT with a Nightforce NX8 4-32x50 in a 6.5 PRC shooting 147 ELDM's. It's exceeded all of my expectations and has made it fun to target shoot after many years of shooting big calibers with lots of recoil that drove me away from the range. It's also brought a new level of meaning to spot, stock, and sniper when I'm hunting. It's far and away my favorite gun in the arsenal.Along with that one, I have a cheap Rugar American in a 6.5 creed with an inexpensive 4-16 power Vortex diamondback scope and also a 7mm08 Xblot with a 5-25 Vortex Viper PST. Both are fun to shoot. The creed has exceeded all expectations for a gun that I don't have much more tha $800 into. Zero issues at 500 yards, after that my eyes need a better scope but I think the gun is capable of more. But for a cheap rifle/scope package, it's a great gun that shoots 143ELDx very well. The 7mm08 is deffintely a much nicer higher quality setup, however, it's been a little more chalanging find good factory ammo that shoots reliabily. Just got that one last summer for the kid so and as it sits its a reliable 500-600 yard gun. I believe I setteled on nosler trophy grade 140 grain accubonds as the best factory pil for that gun towards the end of last summer. Hopeing stretch that one out to a 1,000 yards this summer.</blockquote>

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