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<blockquote data-quote="JayKay" data-source="post: 233789" data-attributes="member: 324"><p>Sigh, I oughta know better than to re-join this argument.</p><p></p><p>No, I have not been in any marijuana shops. As a recovering alcoholic, I have no desire to visit such a place - nice and clean - or otherwise. </p><p></p><p>I'm not saying "nobody should be able to go, because I don't go..". I'm just imagining me in such a place, and someone could yell "hypocrite" and I'd be like "umm, I'm doing research". </p><p></p><p>All of a sudden Bill Clinton and Jim Baker make perfect sense.</p><p></p><p>Switching gears (and most importantly), my stance remains the same. I can't see any benefit to any person - at least not any logical benefit in MY mind - to any person regarding using marijuana recreationally. I fully recognize that many people, on this site and elsewhere, WANT to use recreationally, but I don't see their desire as a reason for me to vote to change an existing law. </p><p></p><p>Between you and I and a fence-post, if it were legal, and the topic was making it illegal, I'd probably have to say I don't want changes. </p><p></p><p>In my mind, the fact that there is an opioid epidemic is no reason to make this (currently illegal) drug legal. That's like saying we need to raise the speed limits, because there aren't enough parking ramps. I get however, that you're saying we use the resources we currently use for policing pot, on a more troublesome epidemic. I get that you're thinking "with all the money we save by letting people smoke, we can go after the more dangerous drugs". </p><p></p><p>Personally, I think that that's BS. </p><p></p><p>For those who think that by letting people legally smoke pot, we are going to have LESS drugs around..? I don't buy that for a minute either. In my opinion, and experience, pot is just one of many gateway drugs. You can roll your eyes and call me dumb, but I have been around. Maybe some people smoke pot and never do anything else. Maybe some can still function and be a productive member of society yada yada yada. But a lot can't and don't. For a lot of people, smoking pot is one step in a long series of steps, leading into addiction and piss-poor decision making, loss of self, loss of family, loss of freedom.</p><p></p><p>People say pot is harmless. WAY different than those hard drugs. Nobody goes from pot to meth or coke or heroin right? All those people on those bad drugs, they all wanted to be on those bad drugs. They did that on purpose, right? You ask them when they're on the other side, in recovery (if they're still alive) and they'll tell you that they never meant to be in the gutter. They never meant to lose their family and job. Again, I'm not saying that all pot smokers end up like this. But some do.</p><p></p><p>I also want to be clear, that my rhetoric and language are not coming from some anti-pot brochure, or from listening to Bob Wefald. These are my first-hand observations.</p><p></p><p>Jaykay</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JayKay, post: 233789, member: 324"] Sigh, I oughta know better than to re-join this argument. No, I have not been in any marijuana shops. As a recovering alcoholic, I have no desire to visit such a place - nice and clean - or otherwise. I'm not saying "nobody should be able to go, because I don't go..". I'm just imagining me in such a place, and someone could yell "hypocrite" and I'd be like "umm, I'm doing research". All of a sudden Bill Clinton and Jim Baker make perfect sense. Switching gears (and most importantly), my stance remains the same. I can't see any benefit to any person - at least not any logical benefit in MY mind - to any person regarding using marijuana recreationally. I fully recognize that many people, on this site and elsewhere, WANT to use recreationally, but I don't see their desire as a reason for me to vote to change an existing law. Between you and I and a fence-post, if it were legal, and the topic was making it illegal, I'd probably have to say I don't want changes. In my mind, the fact that there is an opioid epidemic is no reason to make this (currently illegal) drug legal. That's like saying we need to raise the speed limits, because there aren't enough parking ramps. I get however, that you're saying we use the resources we currently use for policing pot, on a more troublesome epidemic. I get that you're thinking "with all the money we save by letting people smoke, we can go after the more dangerous drugs". Personally, I think that that's BS. For those who think that by letting people legally smoke pot, we are going to have LESS drugs around..? I don't buy that for a minute either. In my opinion, and experience, pot is just one of many gateway drugs. You can roll your eyes and call me dumb, but I have been around. Maybe some people smoke pot and never do anything else. Maybe some can still function and be a productive member of society yada yada yada. But a lot can't and don't. For a lot of people, smoking pot is one step in a long series of steps, leading into addiction and piss-poor decision making, loss of self, loss of family, loss of freedom. People say pot is harmless. WAY different than those hard drugs. Nobody goes from pot to meth or coke or heroin right? All those people on those bad drugs, they all wanted to be on those bad drugs. They did that on purpose, right? You ask them when they're on the other side, in recovery (if they're still alive) and they'll tell you that they never meant to be in the gutter. They never meant to lose their family and job. Again, I'm not saying that all pot smokers end up like this. But some do. I also want to be clear, that my rhetoric and language are not coming from some anti-pot brochure, or from listening to Bob Wefald. These are my first-hand observations. Jaykay [/QUOTE]
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