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<blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 176943" data-attributes="member: 373"><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>I am not asking anyone to by sympathetic" to LaVoy Finnicums "fate". I am merely asking people to become educated as to what our govt is capable and willing to do. And to realize that more and more people are willing to excuse and justify those actions and where that may lead. </strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>And LaVoy knew full well what might happen when he exercised his 2nd amendment rights as our Founders envisioned them being exercised. He spoke to it on more than one occasion. </strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>He paid that price for what he believed that our govt is ignoring our Constitution. </strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong></strong></span>Perhaps you are comfortable to sit back while people like Dirty Harry Reid and company bend and twist and ignore our Constitution. </p><p></p><p>Perhaps you take comfort in courts where judges do the bidding of the political ideals that put them on the bench. </p><p></p><p>I am guessing what would have been on our Founders minds here based on their writings I have read,,,,,and I believe they would think that is the greatest danger to our Constitutional Republic they gave us.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>So what happens when govt agencies are breaking the law and the courts do nothing because those in political power that appoint them are the ones appointing those in the federal agencies that are breaking the law? </p><p></p><p>The courts? </p><p></p><p>Several lower courts ruled in favor on Wayne Hage who followed your advice of taking the legal and legislative route. Then the 9th district court overturned the lower courts ruling in his case. Are you familiar with the 9th allen? The court that overturned Trump immigration policy ? Are you familiar with their record of being over turned? </p><p></p><p>Take a look at the percentages of cases the courts rule on the SCOTUS over turns when viewed under a Constitutional lens. </p><p></p><p>Then realize the SCOTUS only hears less than 2% of all cases that are appealed that high. 100 to 150 a year. So if a judge know he only has a 2% chance of his judgement being reviewed and being over turned............</p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/26/donald-trump/does-ninth-circuit-have-overturn-record-close-80/" target="_blank">http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/26/donald-trump/does-ninth-circuit-have-overturn-record-close-80/</a></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Oh for fu$k sake allen you are REALLY sounding like plainsman now. Do you know that Shawna Cox the other woman in the vehicle as well as Victoria Sharp the 18 year old has said the reason LaVoy left the pickup at all was to get LE to stop firing into it and at the women? </p><p></p><p>Indeed you as a law enforcement officer did not choose ot put an 18 year old girl in that position...but you as a law enforcement officer can certainly choose whether to fire live rounds using deadly force or not. Apparently you have no problem with that choice</p><p></p><p>It appears you seem you would sleep easy with this girls death simply because hey she was in the wrong spot at the wrong time. But hey none of your fellow law enforcement officers would think you were a "pussy" though right?? </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Just don;t exercise your 2nd amendment rights when defending democracy though eh allen...... wait a minute.....say, aren;t our 2nd amendment rights part of demo...........oh never mind Jerry Springer is on TV.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gst, post: 176943, member: 373"] [COLOR=#ff0000][B]I am not asking anyone to by sympathetic" to LaVoy Finnicums "fate". I am merely asking people to become educated as to what our govt is capable and willing to do. And to realize that more and more people are willing to excuse and justify those actions and where that may lead. And LaVoy knew full well what might happen when he exercised his 2nd amendment rights as our Founders envisioned them being exercised. He spoke to it on more than one occasion. He paid that price for what he believed that our govt is ignoring our Constitution. [/B][/COLOR]Perhaps you are comfortable to sit back while people like Dirty Harry Reid and company bend and twist and ignore our Constitution. Perhaps you take comfort in courts where judges do the bidding of the political ideals that put them on the bench. I am guessing what would have been on our Founders minds here based on their writings I have read,,,,,and I believe they would think that is the greatest danger to our Constitutional Republic they gave us. [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] So what happens when govt agencies are breaking the law and the courts do nothing because those in political power that appoint them are the ones appointing those in the federal agencies that are breaking the law? The courts? Several lower courts ruled in favor on Wayne Hage who followed your advice of taking the legal and legislative route. Then the 9th district court overturned the lower courts ruling in his case. Are you familiar with the 9th allen? The court that overturned Trump immigration policy ? Are you familiar with their record of being over turned? Take a look at the percentages of cases the courts rule on the SCOTUS over turns when viewed under a Constitutional lens. Then realize the SCOTUS only hears less than 2% of all cases that are appealed that high. 100 to 150 a year. So if a judge know he only has a 2% chance of his judgement being reviewed and being over turned............ [URL]http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/26/donald-trump/does-ninth-circuit-have-overturn-record-close-80/[/URL] [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] Oh for fu$k sake allen you are REALLY sounding like plainsman now. Do you know that Shawna Cox the other woman in the vehicle as well as Victoria Sharp the 18 year old has said the reason LaVoy left the pickup at all was to get LE to stop firing into it and at the women? Indeed you as a law enforcement officer did not choose ot put an 18 year old girl in that position...but you as a law enforcement officer can certainly choose whether to fire live rounds using deadly force or not. Apparently you have no problem with that choice It appears you seem you would sleep easy with this girls death simply because hey she was in the wrong spot at the wrong time. But hey none of your fellow law enforcement officers would think you were a "pussy" though right?? Just don;t exercise your 2nd amendment rights when defending democracy though eh allen...... wait a minute.....say, aren;t our 2nd amendment rights part of demo...........oh never mind Jerry Springer is on TV. [/QUOTE]
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