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<blockquote data-quote="PrairieGhost" data-source="post: 177173" data-attributes="member: 704"><p>Yes, it was over all human activity, but the final phase of that was modern agriculture.&nbsp; Market hunters took the buffalo and other species.&nbsp; They were not the sportsmen of today.&nbsp; It was modern hunters who called for conservation.&nbsp;&nbsp; I don't know who wiped out the plains grizzly.&nbsp; Bottom line is they could not coexist with modern agriculture.&nbsp; The point is wildlife depending on the species exists because of agriculture and exists in spite of agriculture.&nbsp; Lets take overgrazing for example.&nbsp;&nbsp; The grasshopper sparrow can not tolerate overgrazing.&nbsp; The horned lark loves overgrazed pasture.&nbsp; When I walked ten to twelve miles a day (great plains) back in the late 1970's both heavily grazed and lightly grazed produced birds.&nbsp; The difference was species diversity.&nbsp; Heavily grazed normally had about three or four species while lightly grazed averaged sixteen to eighteen species.&nbsp; One found agriculture beneficial while another species would disappear.&nbsp; This isn't anti or pro agriculture it's just the way it is.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="PrairieGhost, post: 177173, member: 704"] Yes, it was over all human activity, but the final phase of that was modern agriculture. Market hunters took the buffalo and other species. They were not the sportsmen of today. It was modern hunters who called for conservation. I don't know who wiped out the plains grizzly. Bottom line is they could not coexist with modern agriculture. The point is wildlife depending on the species exists because of agriculture and exists in spite of agriculture. Lets take overgrazing for example. The grasshopper sparrow can not tolerate overgrazing. The horned lark loves overgrazed pasture. When I walked ten to twelve miles a day (great plains) back in the late 1970's both heavily grazed and lightly grazed produced birds. The difference was species diversity. Heavily grazed normally had about three or four species while lightly grazed averaged sixteen to eighteen species. One found agriculture beneficial while another species would disappear. This isn't anti or pro agriculture it's just the way it is. [/QUOTE]

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