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<blockquote data-quote="Duckslayer100" data-source="post: 116618" data-attributes="member: 1485"><p>True, if you're paying cash rent rates. But the farmers now clamoring for CRP aren't exactly asking for top dollar, are they? Seems to me they want the going CRP rate payment just so they can get ahead, knowing full well they're going to lose money planting crops even before they put a seeder on the field.</p><p></p><p>Also, how long do you think these rental rates are going to stay at $50-$120/acre if commodity prices stay low? Something is going to give. You're already seeing it from the fools who gobbled up land when corn and soybeans were at record highs. Those smart old-timers who waited out the frenzy are picking up land from broke farmers for pennies on the dollar in some places...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>By all means, let's end the CRP program. But tell me: What would happen if a few million acres of once fallow land suddenly got into production? Would that hurt or help your bottom line? Be honest.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>True, and maybe that's where CRP has gone astray. Then again, I think there's different criteria on what land can be accepted into the program. Maybe it's not marginal, but it is close to waterways or is full of puddles and seasonal wetlands. Or it's some rare eastern long-stem prairie in the RRV that's home to meadowlarks and monarchs. I honestly have no clue. I imagine there's a lot that goes into picking the land, especially now when there is a lot more demand from farmers than there are acres allowed in the program. The feds get to be a bit more picky on what does or does not cut the CRP mustard. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's up the landowner, isn't it? And from what I've seen, the few WMAs that are grazed are done so annually. Doesn't look like the cattle minds one bit, despite the fact it's full of weeds. Maybe you just have picky cows? :;:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Are you that expert? No? Then why argue?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Duckslayer100, post: 116618, member: 1485"] True, if you're paying cash rent rates. But the farmers now clamoring for CRP aren't exactly asking for top dollar, are they? Seems to me they want the going CRP rate payment just so they can get ahead, knowing full well they're going to lose money planting crops even before they put a seeder on the field. Also, how long do you think these rental rates are going to stay at $50-$120/acre if commodity prices stay low? Something is going to give. You're already seeing it from the fools who gobbled up land when corn and soybeans were at record highs. Those smart old-timers who waited out the frenzy are picking up land from broke farmers for pennies on the dollar in some places... By all means, let's end the CRP program. But tell me: What would happen if a few million acres of once fallow land suddenly got into production? Would that hurt or help your bottom line? Be honest. True, and maybe that's where CRP has gone astray. Then again, I think there's different criteria on what land can be accepted into the program. Maybe it's not marginal, but it is close to waterways or is full of puddles and seasonal wetlands. Or it's some rare eastern long-stem prairie in the RRV that's home to meadowlarks and monarchs. I honestly have no clue. I imagine there's a lot that goes into picking the land, especially now when there is a lot more demand from farmers than there are acres allowed in the program. The feds get to be a bit more picky on what does or does not cut the CRP mustard. That's up the landowner, isn't it? And from what I've seen, the few WMAs that are grazed are done so annually. Doesn't look like the cattle minds one bit, despite the fact it's full of weeds. Maybe you just have picky cows? :;: Are you that expert? No? Then why argue? [/QUOTE]
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