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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SLE" data-source="post: 311761" data-attributes="member: 3889">well, guys that are going to come shoot at the range the day before season starts speaks volumes to the “caliber” of shooters your taking your opinion from.as far as a factory rifle that will shoot to 500 yds consistently, damn near any will do it with any decent glass. Hell I bought a CHEAP Ruger American 6.5 Creed, Topped it with a low end Vortex Diamondback 4-16 tactical scope, added a bi-pod, sling, and upgraded the gun for magpul magazines. Hardly have $800 in the whole package. Bought this setup for my kids that are just hitting the age where they can start rifle hunting. That gun with cheap 120s or the better 143 eldx will lay rounds within a MOA at 500 all day long. 700 isn’t out of the realm for it but I like more magnification if I’m shooting out that far.As far as the comment about long distance shots hunting and pissing you off; well, I’ll take a mediocre shooter who has a good tactical scope, that has practiced at the range at 500-700 yds and knows his ballistics  before the guy that pulls his trusty ot-6 with his 3x9 bushnell hoping and poking at 300-400 yds and trying to shoot every running animal.We snuck with 25 yds of a group of goats this year, buddy made a poor shot and wounded a buck with his 270. Buck laid down at 409 yds. I slid my PRC over to him, ranged the animal, called the shot and he was able dispatch it. There was no way to sneak that wounded buck, we’d have had to try and would’ve end up pushing a wounded animal instead of just taking care of business. Long range has its advantages. As they say, practice for long to shoot for short.</blockquote>

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