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<blockquote data-quote="KDM" data-source="post: 83325" data-attributes="member: 314">I've asked the NDGF why they don't start a ground survey program using a predetermined route like they do for waterfowl, pheasants, and other game species.&nbsp; Their reply was that the data isn't as good as an aerial survey.&nbsp; Well Now......I think that ANY data collected by using another surveillance technique would be A DAMN SIGHT BETTER THAN THE BIG FAT ZERO THEY ARE GETTING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!But what the hell do I know.&nbsp; I only have a PhD in a biological field and have done surveillance work on 3 F'N CONTINENTS!!!!If you can't tell I'm pissed off at the run around from the NDGF and the rampant ignorance of the deer hunters who really aren't interested in getting educated on how the system that decides tag numbers works, but would rather just complain about what they are given instead of demanding they be provided scientifically based population estimates to determine tag numbers instead of politics, subjective surveys, and guesswork. RANT OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KDM, post: 83325, member: 314"] I've asked the NDGF why they don't start a ground survey program using a predetermined route like they do for waterfowl, pheasants, and other game species. Their reply was that the data isn't as good as an aerial survey. Well Now......I think that ANY data collected by using another surveillance technique would be A DAMN SIGHT BETTER THAN THE BIG FAT ZERO THEY ARE GETTING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But what the hell do I know. I only have a PhD in a biological field and have done surveillance work on 3 F'N CONTINENTS!!!! If you can't tell I'm pissed off at the run around from the NDGF and the rampant ignorance of the deer hunters who really aren't interested in getting educated on how the system that decides tag numbers works, but would rather just complain about what they are given instead of demanding they be provided scientifically based population estimates to determine tag numbers instead of politics, subjective surveys, and guesswork. RANT OVER!!!!!!!!!!!! [/QUOTE]

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