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<blockquote data-quote="Davy Crockett" data-source="post: 246662" data-attributes="member: 367"><p>Maybe maybe not. It's pretty easy for me to see both sides and I have nothing to gain nothing to lose but my future generations do . I won't know if I support the bill as written until the final draft but some of you evidently already have your mind made up and boycotting those with other opinions and even those that are on the fence. Are you going to boycott land owners that are in favor or on the fence too ? Speaking as a hunter, The more I hear the more the less I like what I hear. Speaking as a landowner, It's easier to lean in favor than against this bill and I'm thinking I might sitting at the wrong campfire. To me this a property rights issue more than a hunting issue. I see a lot of people making it sound impossible before we even know the final content or procedure. This comment will really get a rise out of you guys but I see the same as the issue with not enough tags to go around. Most of the same ones bitching against this bill fought for the ability to have two tags while other hunters have to go without any , I see it as greed and you want it all on a silver platter. I get the part of driving down the road and seeing a coyote or a thirty point buck and not being able to drop them , That part I really do get. I just keep hearing how much money this will cost and it will be impossible to make this work. </p><p></p><p>This is a partial copy and pasted opinion of a landowner from ND stockmen's website that pretty much sums up my opinion.</p><p> </p><p> " <span style="color: #1D2129"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: inherit">This bill is about Property Rights, not hunting. We OWN or land, which gives us as owners the absolute power of who can and can't enter it for any and all reasons. The state has no right to grant trespass "privileges" to ANYONE regardless if we post </span></span></span><span style="font-family: inherit"><span style="color: #1d2129">or don't! It is not PUBLIC land it's PRIVATE so the state has no claim to it for anything. There is NO RIGHT to enter another person's private property without permission, it's as simple as that."</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #1d2129"><span style="font-family: inherit"> Either way this bill goes I get pretty sick of the bitching and whining I hear and get if a landowner or sportsman even </span>asks<span style="font-family: inherit"> a question or makes a </span>neutral<span style="font-family: inherit"> comment then he is the enemy or the one bitching and whining. SMH. I am still not sure what way I will even decide on this bill until the final draft but I do have my opinions. I promised obi or migrator , I forget which one that I won't sugar coat it and I didn't then and I won't ever. If I am sitting at the wrong campfire then so be it but one thing hunters have to take into account is the mentality of most ranchers and large property owners. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1d2129"><span style="font-family: inherit"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1d2129"><span style="font-family: inherit">They will do just fine without </span></span>[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]<span style="color: #1d2129">hunters</span>[/FONT]<span style="font-family: inherit"><span style="color: #1d2129"> believe me and it hurts to face the reality about that. I think some you hunters setting up ALL hunters for a lot of resistance here and I don't like that one bit thinking ahead for future generations. This looks like one issue that working together is a hell of a lot smarter than working against but that is just my not so humble opinion. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p>If and when this would ever end up in a courtroom as a class action property rights issue it won't come out good for hunters .</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Davy Crockett, post: 246662, member: 367"] Maybe maybe not. It's pretty easy for me to see both sides and I have nothing to gain nothing to lose but my future generations do . I won't know if I support the bill as written until the final draft but some of you evidently already have your mind made up and boycotting those with other opinions and even those that are on the fence. Are you going to boycott land owners that are in favor or on the fence too ? Speaking as a hunter, The more I hear the more the less I like what I hear. Speaking as a landowner, It's easier to lean in favor than against this bill and I'm thinking I might sitting at the wrong campfire. To me this a property rights issue more than a hunting issue. I see a lot of people making it sound impossible before we even know the final content or procedure. This comment will really get a rise out of you guys but I see the same as the issue with not enough tags to go around. Most of the same ones bitching against this bill fought for the ability to have two tags while other hunters have to go without any , I see it as greed and you want it all on a silver platter. I get the part of driving down the road and seeing a coyote or a thirty point buck and not being able to drop them , That part I really do get. I just keep hearing how much money this will cost and it will be impossible to make this work. This is a partial copy and pasted opinion of a landowner from ND stockmen's website that pretty much sums up my opinion. " [COLOR=#1D2129][FONT=Helvetica][FONT=inherit]This bill is about Property Rights, not hunting. We OWN or land, which gives us as owners the absolute power of who can and can't enter it for any and all reasons. The state has no right to grant trespass "privileges" to ANYONE regardless if we post [/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=inherit][COLOR=#1d2129]or don't! It is not PUBLIC land it's PRIVATE so the state has no claim to it for anything. There is NO RIGHT to enter another person's private property without permission, it's as simple as that."[/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=#1d2129][FONT=inherit] Either way this bill goes I get pretty sick of the bitching and whining I hear and get if a landowner or sportsman even [/FONT]asks[FONT=inherit] a question or makes a [/FONT]neutral[FONT=inherit] comment then he is the enemy or the one bitching and whining. SMH. I am still not sure what way I will even decide on this bill until the final draft but I do have my opinions. I promised obi or migrator , I forget which one that I won't sugar coat it and I didn't then and I won't ever. If I am sitting at the wrong campfire then so be it but one thing hunters have to take into account is the mentality of most ranchers and large property owners. They will do just fine without [/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#1d2129]hunters[/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=inherit][COLOR=#1d2129] believe me and it hurts to face the reality about that. I think some you hunters setting up ALL hunters for a lot of resistance here and I don't like that one bit thinking ahead for future generations. This looks like one issue that working together is a hell of a lot smarter than working against but that is just my not so humble opinion. [/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] If and when this would ever end up in a courtroom as a class action property rights issue it won't come out good for hunters . [/QUOTE]
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