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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rowdie" data-source="post: 299425" data-attributes="member: 272"><p>The front headlock, and a shin to the neck isn't cutting off air but blood to the brain.  You will be able to talk, and breath, put you may pass out.  We called it choking a guy out when using a front headlock, but we all knew what it really was.   When you feel yourself passing out, you panic, and if you can talk, most will say they can't breath.  I'm not surprised that Flyoid died in that position.  Does anyone really think he would have died without a shin on his neck cutting off blood to his brain.  There's no doubt in my mind he'd still be alive if not for a knee to his neck for 8 minutes.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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