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<blockquote data-quote="Traxion" data-source="post: 334302" data-attributes="member: 983"><p>Remember there are LAWYERS on both sides. I can see the prosecutor leaving out the detail that the gun was locked up AND I can see the defense saying it was locked up, knowing it can't be proved. There are three people that know the location and locked status of that handgun and I'm guessing all three will say it was locked up given their circumstances. I'm not ready to say either side is playing "fair".</p><p></p><p>I don't know that we know details of the meeting at school, but if I'd have to guess I'd say culpability lays upon the parents for not taking him out of the school situation knowing what they knew. While I understand nobody thinks that their kid is going to do something so horrible, you don't have the chance to be reactive in this situation (which by text messages it looks like mom was). I work in public education and am baffled by the series of events, yet not surprised. If a student makes threats or other disturbing signs are shown, parents are met with and the student is not allowed to be in school until a threat assessment is done. That may take days, but the student is not allowed back. Now, when I say "is not", I don't know that we have been challenged by parents unwilling to remove their student like it looks like happened in this situation. I know we have had other situations where parents said "too bad, I am not going to take them out. He/she is your responsibility from 8-3:30" and walked away. And in these cases, the school had little they could do. I'm not an administrator, but my knowledge of the process is that it is extremely difficult to get kids out of school without going through every step. I feel a threat as this should be immediate cause for out of school suspension (until threat assessment is done), but I don't know that it is really that clear on the school's end. This will be used as a case study for years to come in crisis management and school law courses. But, bottom line, if the parents refused to take him out of school and the school didn't have the means to remove him, the parents may have assumed some culpability in the scenario. </p><p></p><p>It is an incredibly slippery slope. I'm not sure where it will go. Ultimately, there was one person who pulled the trigger. </p><p></p><p>Another thing I'd say is that there is an overflow of young kids who need mental health services in our public schools. Why I don't know, but it can literally be weeks before students can get in and see counselors and receive services. Keep in mind that school counselors ARE NOT mental health counselors. Even here in the Dakotas, this is a serious issue. If you can help support more mental health services for kids, please do!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Traxion, post: 334302, member: 983"] Remember there are LAWYERS on both sides. I can see the prosecutor leaving out the detail that the gun was locked up AND I can see the defense saying it was locked up, knowing it can't be proved. There are three people that know the location and locked status of that handgun and I'm guessing all three will say it was locked up given their circumstances. I'm not ready to say either side is playing "fair". I don't know that we know details of the meeting at school, but if I'd have to guess I'd say culpability lays upon the parents for not taking him out of the school situation knowing what they knew. While I understand nobody thinks that their kid is going to do something so horrible, you don't have the chance to be reactive in this situation (which by text messages it looks like mom was). I work in public education and am baffled by the series of events, yet not surprised. If a student makes threats or other disturbing signs are shown, parents are met with and the student is not allowed to be in school until a threat assessment is done. That may take days, but the student is not allowed back. Now, when I say "is not", I don't know that we have been challenged by parents unwilling to remove their student like it looks like happened in this situation. I know we have had other situations where parents said "too bad, I am not going to take them out. He/she is your responsibility from 8-3:30" and walked away. And in these cases, the school had little they could do. I'm not an administrator, but my knowledge of the process is that it is extremely difficult to get kids out of school without going through every step. I feel a threat as this should be immediate cause for out of school suspension (until threat assessment is done), but I don't know that it is really that clear on the school's end. This will be used as a case study for years to come in crisis management and school law courses. But, bottom line, if the parents refused to take him out of school and the school didn't have the means to remove him, the parents may have assumed some culpability in the scenario. It is an incredibly slippery slope. I'm not sure where it will go. Ultimately, there was one person who pulled the trigger. Another thing I'd say is that there is an overflow of young kids who need mental health services in our public schools. Why I don't know, but it can literally be weeks before students can get in and see counselors and receive services. Keep in mind that school counselors ARE NOT mental health counselors. Even here in the Dakotas, this is a serious issue. If you can help support more mental health services for kids, please do! [/QUOTE]
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