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Message: <blockquote data-quote="db-2" data-source="post: 278009" data-attributes="member: 4743">5575:Some of them will still find the need to vote democrate in order to shut down all the coal mines along with increaseing taxes to pay for medicare for all, green world ect and as i have seen, i am sure the 401, pension will find a different direction to go.  At that point one just keep saying "I'm in for the long haul".  Does leaving a different feeling in your stomach when it goes south.The wife and i have three different accounts in 401.  They make up less than 20% of our savings.  One has made 7.31% over the last 8 years and in 2019 so far 14.05%, I convince the wife to transfer 7600 into another account that in five years has made $650 with $865 of that this year, next Feb she can take out with no penalty, the investor kept telling me it will get better, I do not visit with the wife on this one, the last one has made $17,000 on an investment of $54,000 over 8 years with $6,700 of that this year so far.5575 somehow my investor is not up to the same speed as your company and I never did have a pension even with all the people I work for.But good for them as that is a sizable amount of monies.  So it was not as good for me but where will those funds go someday.  Maybe the kids but we just no longer spend monies and have no real wants anymore.  So I cover my ass by saying that to myself to cover for my poor planning or not being lucky enough to put the monies in the right place or leave it where it was.So we all have gone down different roads with different results, experience and the like.  Hope one find happiness with what one has.  For now, my only want is for someone to tell me how to shut off the auto start at stop lights on my Buick Enclave.  This bugs the hell out of me.  db</blockquote>

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