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Message: <blockquote data-quote="deleted member" data-source="post: 306153" data-attributes="member: 816">:bigpuke:- - - Updated - - -don't get me wrong.  i get it.  "our" side isn't very good at articulating the problems with the everything posted idea.  one of the callers touched on it.  the lack of public land in this state and the inability to add any more is a serious problem that should be addressed before we go this route.  we don't need to actually add more land.  but, we need to change the laws to make it easier to do so. when we go out west for opener, we almost exclusively hunt unposted stuff.  and its not like i have extra days to go out there in advance and seek out people.  its a one weekend thing barely over 48 hours.  i have to think every one of those landowners who currently don't post their stuff couldn't give two shits if i hunt... that's why they never posted their land and that's why they have never confronted me when i hunted it.  and i am not sure why its so difficult to post unless a fella owns 20,000 acres.  we post some land for a friend (3,000 acres maybe).  now that we went to metal signs, on metal posts, its barely an hour project every year to check signs.  i do it the night before duck opener whilst scouting.  if i lived and farmed it, it would barely take any extra time since i would be out there anyway.  total cost for upwards of 150 signs was like 300.  we supplied signs for like 4-5 landowning friends.  every so often, we have to replace one since my buddy isn't too concerned if he hits one with the mower.  if he paid for the signs or gave to shits about who was out there, he probably wouldn't run so many over.  but, he doesn't.  he just doesn't want to be bothered.  at all.  one of my other biggest landowning friends is the exact same way.  doesn't want to be bothered.  so, he doesn't post at all.  won't even let us post it and pay for them cause he knows they will just pull in his yard or call him instead of calling the number on the poster.  at this point, we allow hunters (probably too many) on the land we post.  and his land is open to all.  i guarantee you if they need to field 250 calls a year each (like i currently do on the one friends land) it isn't going to help landowner relations.  its gonna hurt them.  after about 50 calls or visits, i bet the one friend is gonna completely lose it and say "fuck ya all!  leave me the hell alone please!".  absentee landownership without contact information is also an issue.  those folks don't post now either.  they don't live here and couldn't care who is wandering the drainage ditch in their rented and harvested wheat field.  the other caller touched on it too.  a lot of people come here for the "access" from other states.  the folks that rent our cabin fucking love the wide open spaces, unposted land, gravel roads every mile, etc... they say its a damn dream.  a lot of them will bypass this state for others if this passes.  the other states either have a bunch more public land or better actual hunting opportunities.  the unposted rule in this state is what sets us apart and draws folks here.  bad apples are the rarity not the norm.i won't be too butt hurt if this passes.  and like i said... i understand their position.  but, do think the "other" side has a lot of concerns, retorts, etc... that certainly need to be taken into consideration.</blockquote>

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