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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Big Iron" data-source="post: 173393" data-attributes="member: 1823"><p>You must be landing airplanes on that patio!  I'd recommend 4" of compacted gravel at a minimum.  Pitrun sand will also work beautifully for fill material, but it's always nice to have uniformity with your subgrade (recommend getting similar fill material to existing).  Plate tamps/ jumping jacks will work fine for compacting if you are using gravel.  Make sure you add some moisture when packing in the material, and before you place the concrete.  </p><p></p><p>Most concrete outfits will fine tune the grade before they set forms.  Make sure your buddy cuts that concrete the day after placing to prevent cracking in the wrong locations!  Good Luck</p></blockquote><p></p>

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