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<blockquote data-quote="midwesthunter" data-source="post: 255527" data-attributes="member: 4512"><p>I don't see what the big deal is about this bill passing. Do none of you ask landowner permission to hunt? If they didn't post it in years past they obviously don't care if people hunt or access their land just call them up and ask you will still probably be able to access their land. When I started hunting hardly anything was posted now nearly everything is posted where I hunt. Does that mean i have no where to hunt? Absolutely not I do what I've been doing for years asking the landowner if I can hunt when I see them. If I am not hunting locally say out of state like MT where all private land is also posted. I pull in to the ranch and speak with the landowner face to face sometime I get permission sometimes I don't but never once have I felt like my rights as a sportsman are being infringed upon because a landowner didn't give me permission. He owns the land I think he should have the final say who can and can't step foot on his land. Be respectful to the landowner and their property and you shouldn't have a problem gaining access. If you're the idiots driving down muddy section lines tearing the land up, leaving gates open that were closed, and leaving trash and unsightly animal remains all over then yes you probably will have a problem gaining access. This law isn't taking away your right to hunt or access public land. It's making you interact with landowners and actually ask for permission. I always ask for landowner permission even if it isn't posted and never once have I been turned down. In fact they are usually very appreciative that I asked saying not many people do that anymore but it is nice to know who is out there. Again you have to remember this is PRIVATE land. Im guessing none of you would let someone just set up camp in your front yard in Fargo or want people walking through your backyard without knowing who they are and what they are doing. This is no different it is their private land whether it is .25 acres or 10,000 acres it's still private. Show a little respect and just ask you might be surprised at how far that gets you. </p><p></p><p>To me not wanting this law passed boils down to one of two things laziness by not wanting to walk the extra miles to get to your hunting spot which you could previously drive to by crossing private land or a lack of respect/confidence/social skills whatever you want to call it by just call or better yet ask in person to access their land.</p><p> </p><p>There are so many tools out there to find out who owns the land and contact information or finding other ways to access an area there really isn't any reason you can't still enjoy hunting out west. Before you start freaking out about not being able to access millions of acres of public land because you have to cross private which will now be posted put in a little extra work and contact the landowners.</p><p> </p><p>No one said finding that trophy buck would be easy. You may have to put in a little extra work leg work to get to him and spend some extra time figuring out how to legally get in there but it is possible. If you aren't will to put in the extra work you probably don't really care that much about hunting anyways.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="midwesthunter, post: 255527, member: 4512"] I don't see what the big deal is about this bill passing. Do none of you ask landowner permission to hunt? If they didn't post it in years past they obviously don't care if people hunt or access their land just call them up and ask you will still probably be able to access their land. When I started hunting hardly anything was posted now nearly everything is posted where I hunt. Does that mean i have no where to hunt? Absolutely not I do what I've been doing for years asking the landowner if I can hunt when I see them. If I am not hunting locally say out of state like MT where all private land is also posted. I pull in to the ranch and speak with the landowner face to face sometime I get permission sometimes I don't but never once have I felt like my rights as a sportsman are being infringed upon because a landowner didn't give me permission. He owns the land I think he should have the final say who can and can't step foot on his land. Be respectful to the landowner and their property and you shouldn't have a problem gaining access. If you're the idiots driving down muddy section lines tearing the land up, leaving gates open that were closed, and leaving trash and unsightly animal remains all over then yes you probably will have a problem gaining access. This law isn't taking away your right to hunt or access public land. It's making you interact with landowners and actually ask for permission. I always ask for landowner permission even if it isn't posted and never once have I been turned down. In fact they are usually very appreciative that I asked saying not many people do that anymore but it is nice to know who is out there. Again you have to remember this is PRIVATE land. Im guessing none of you would let someone just set up camp in your front yard in Fargo or want people walking through your backyard without knowing who they are and what they are doing. This is no different it is their private land whether it is .25 acres or 10,000 acres it's still private. Show a little respect and just ask you might be surprised at how far that gets you. To me not wanting this law passed boils down to one of two things laziness by not wanting to walk the extra miles to get to your hunting spot which you could previously drive to by crossing private land or a lack of respect/confidence/social skills whatever you want to call it by just call or better yet ask in person to access their land. There are so many tools out there to find out who owns the land and contact information or finding other ways to access an area there really isn't any reason you can't still enjoy hunting out west. Before you start freaking out about not being able to access millions of acres of public land because you have to cross private which will now be posted put in a little extra work and contact the landowners. No one said finding that trophy buck would be easy. You may have to put in a little extra work leg work to get to him and spend some extra time figuring out how to legally get in there but it is possible. If you aren't will to put in the extra work you probably don't really care that much about hunting anyways. [/QUOTE]
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