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Trying to get thing straight With those people is;:;banghead;:;banghead;:;banghead;:;banghead;:;banghead;:;banghead;:;banghead;:;banghead;:;banghead. Never once have I had a mistake that was in my favor. Its always in the favor of the hospital or clinic. I think they train their people to do this s..h that way, like they dont charge enough to begin with. ;:;banghead;:;banghead;:;banghead;:;banghead;:;banghead. Rant over for now, maybe. LB
 


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I always have claims denied, but as soon as I call: "oh, that was coded wrong, we'll resubmit" and it gets paid. Just a game to see if patients will question it or not.
 

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Oh man LB, sorry to hear that you aren't getting a break on your doctor bill BS. If there was an error in your favor, they'd probably just look the other way and add it to their profits. That's my theory why it's an extremely rare thing to get money back on just about anything.

I had to get a kidney stone blasted when I lived in Colorado. Worst experience ever...everything about it was awful! They almost killed me TWICE! NO JOKE! But what really made me mad, was that they tried to get me to pay the full bill up front. I told them that I have insurance and they still tried to make me pay before I got the EMERGENCY surgery. She was asking for like $15k!! I told the billing lady she can kick rocks and I'll just go home to die a horrible death. I even stood up and started walking out (This is no exaggeration!). Luckily my wife was there to cool things down. She saved my life, but I made that billing lady feel bad enough to leave us alone.

Then, when you call and try to get all your doctor bills figured out, it's like you are talking to a high school trainee whose mentor is drunk or always out having a smoke! If you aren't forceful and almost rude, you will never get anywhere with them. They'd rather sell the debt to a collector and not have to deal with it.
 

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Dental isn't much better. We have insurance through my wife's work, and our kids are insured under her. Took my youngest to have some pediatric dental work done, and they submitted three dates of service wrong - with my wife as the patient. At a pediatric dental office.

So, the insurance paid some of the claims, but some were denied due to not being indicated for a person of her age. Come to find out, after three phone calls, that the dental office submitted the wrong patient. They resubmit, but in the mean-time, my wife had some dental work done, and it was denied due to her yearly max being met, with services provided to my daughter.

The insurance companies are not without fault, at all, but if the claims are submitted incorrectly, they will be handled incorrectly too.

What a snarl to sort out. I'm making progress, but it's slow. Like pulling teeth. Wait a minute... !
 


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I usually don't call anymore.

Much better results with face to face with these types.
 

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My mother was ill and ended up passing away at the University of Minnesota hospital in the year 2000. My father received a bill from 2 different doctors from her stay 2 years later. I told him to rip them up to which he did. Never heard another word!! Bunch of blood sucking sh.t stains!!
 

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Insurance companies deny a certain percentage of claims automatically. Then they count on 20% of the people never questioning it.
 

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Insurance companies deny a certain percentage of claims automatically. Then they count on 20% of the people never questioning it.
No they don't.

Its like the kid that bounces 12 checks, then blames the bank for stealing his money when all the over draft fees hit, (had one of these guys working for me).

Insurance companies screw up at the same rate as every other company, no insurance company is out there trying to screw you, or they would be banned by the insurance commissioners office to do business in our state.
If you have a legitimate issue, ND has a 1-800 number right to their office, its what we pay for as tax payers. They will get to the bottom of it, however if its a miss filed claim, or your own inability to fill out the forms, its not something they are going to likely get involved in
 

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I had some dental work done 2 years ago. They made me pay in full BEFORE my insurance paid anything. Then I was to get a refund for what part the insurance paid. It was like pulling teeth (pun intended) getting my refund. Had to call the Fargo main branch an put on hold and they would never cut the check. Finally had to make them refund my card.
 


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No they don't.

Its like the kid that bounces 12 checks, then blames the bank for stealing his money when all the over draft fees hit, (had one of these guys working for me).

Insurance companies screw up at the same rate as every other company, no insurance company is out there trying to screw you, or they would be banned by the insurance commissioners office to do business in our state.
If you have a legitimate issue, ND has a 1-800 number right to their office, its what we pay for as tax payers. They will get to the bottom of it, however if its a miss filed claim, or your own inability to fill out the forms, its not something they are going to likely get involved in
are you not familiar with the number of times BCBS has been spanked for this kind of shit. It’s worth it to them because the extra money they make is far greater than the fine lol. I sold insurance so I had to deal with these clowns. Classic example was a cancer policy I sold my mom many years ago. It was one of the first cancer policies that came out. It paid flat rates for any cancer diagnosis. Different amounts for different cancers. I’m sure you know what I’m talking about. They’re cheap. Well this particular company had coverage for pre cancer screenings at 100%. It didn’t make any sense to me that they would do that because a damn Pap smear cost more than the premium lol. But sure as hell every single year they deny the claim. When I call go straighten it out I have to leave them to the part on the contract that says coverage at 100% for pre cancer screenings. I can’t even begin to tell you how many times this kind of shit happens.
 

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They are all " we are here to help" until you owe them money and then the " Honey badger " comes out. LB
 

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100 years ago, I applied for a claims specialist (or something like that) position wirh BCBS. After answering a few questions with things like "I would do everything I could to make sure the customer was granted everything they were entitled to," I got the feeling that wasn't what they were looking for. Pretty soon, the interviewer wanted me to role play selling her the pen she had in her hand...pretty fun tanking an interview when you know you don't want the job any longer.
 

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I usually don't call anymore.

Much better results with face to face with these types.

Years ago I had to walk into the clinic and threaten to sue them. My son was taking allergy shots, and they gave him someone else's medicine. He swelled up all over and his face turned blue. They were still going to charge me for his shot. Their arrogance is mind boggling.
 

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My mom passed away at 1 AM at the nursing home. When we got the final billing they had charged for all the meals and meds for that day. My sister in law completely ripped them a new one. Just goes to show what they try to get away with when they think no one is looking (much like the government).
 


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A little more to this.

I processed medical claims for 7 years. Never once was I instructed or guided or led to believe it was okay to wrongly deny a claim. Claims processors were constantly reviewed and tested, harped-on for accuracy. Signs on every supervisor's door, showing how 99.9 % accuracy is not good enough. If you process one million claims at 99.9 % accuracy, that's still 1000 errors. From what I saw, they do not do anything wrong on purpose.

But, claims can be complicated. Especially big hospitalization claims. Crazy intricate. So, errors are made. People just don't talk about all the claims handled correctly. Everybody (including me) has horror stories about health insurance.

In order for a claim to be processed correctly though, it has to be submitted correctly. The hospitals, clinics, dr's offices have to be accurate too.

And of course, there is always the random person who is trying to pull a fast one, and get something for nothing. The patient who pisses and moans about how things aren't done the way they think it should be done, and wants everything covered or paid for.

Was getting an oil change last week, and an old woman had an absolute shit-hemorrhage because they wouldn't give her one more free oil change with the car she bought several years ago, or something. The poor woman behind the counter had to go get two managers, and in the end the old lady made a fool of herself. Prime example of people who expect things they're not due.
 

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Kayla your right the claims process is a disaster all around. I’ve seen my share of fuckups on the hospitals end. On a couple of occasions I’ve had two different health insurance plans. My employers plan, which would be primary, and my wife’s BCBS which was secondary. You think single policy is a debacle? Try primary/secondary lol. You’ve probably had dealings with that. What a total shit show.
 

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Fucking crooks,me thinks everyone older has had bad medical dealing's,I had a ER visit in 2012,paid my deductable off,then in 2018 another bill showed up,nothing huge but WTF? couple $100,went to court and lost,I yelled at the judge,another $100 for contempt,fucking asswipes.still pissed.
 

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Fucking crooks,me thinks everyone older has had bad medical dealing's,I had a ER visit in 2012,paid my deductable off,then in 2018 another bill showed up,nothing huge but WTF? couple $100,went to court and lost,I yelled at the judge,another $100 for contempt,fucking asswipes.still pissed.

I have contempt for a few on our Supreme Court. I think they shoukd fine some judges for being contemptable.
 


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