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<blockquote data-quote="SLE" data-source="post: 330369" data-attributes="member: 3889">Well, he wouldn't listen and sit still like a steel gong, I wasn't on a bench, and there was probably some wind and apparently my lead was a tick too much...................I wish every shot was perfect but apparently I don't live in that world. FWIW, directly behind the front shoulder of a big mule deer doe at 80 yards gave me the same result with the creed and the ELD-Xs. If you don't hit bone or some muscle mass, they pass through at close range. At long range I've found them to be pretty good.- - - Updated - - -I used to shoot Winchester Ballistic Silvertip's out the ol ot-six and can say those sombeaches will do some damage, however I lost more meat with those damn things than I ever have with any other bullet. I also despise that particular gun and the ridiculously stupid recoil vs performance for what it was. I didn't have very many keep running though, lol and it put down a bunch of animals over a 20 year span back in the day when we had almost unlimited deer tags!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SLE, post: 330369, member: 3889"] Well, he wouldn't listen and sit still like a steel gong, I wasn't on a bench, and there was probably some wind and apparently my lead was a tick too much...................I wish every shot was perfect but apparently I don't live in that world. FWIW, directly behind the front shoulder of a big mule deer doe at 80 yards gave me the same result with the creed and the ELD-Xs. If you don't hit bone or some muscle mass, they pass through at close range. At long range I've found them to be pretty good. [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] I used to shoot Winchester Ballistic Silvertip's out the ol ot-six and can say those sombeaches will do some damage, however I lost more meat with those damn things than I ever have with any other bullet. I also despise that particular gun and the ridiculously stupid recoil vs performance for what it was. I didn't have very many keep running though, lol and it put down a bunch of animals over a 20 year span back in the day when we had almost unlimited deer tags! [/QUOTE]

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