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<blockquote data-quote="Allen" data-source="post: 206794" data-attributes="member: 389">Times are a changing, I see the 200 HP Verado and Optimax are within 5 lbs of each other now. No way would I go back to a 2-S for five pounds of weight.&nbsp; As far as weight to giddy-up ratio, that's a changing too.&nbsp; There will be 4-S with every bit the snap of a 2-S in the not so distant future, that's where all the R&amp;D money is being spent...not on making 2-S any better.As far as Y vs M, I've run both.&nbsp; Given my d'ruthers...I'd take a Yamaha just about every time.&nbsp; They can all have their problems, but in my memory bank it's been Merc with the systemic issues, especially in the Opti series a few years back.&nbsp; My old(er) Yammie keeps on a purring (granted, it's a 2004 model, so a Merc of the same generation runs the same powerhead), but I just watched a newer and unabused Merc discombobulate on the back of my Toon last year. A little over $9k of Merc warranty to put a new powerhead on got me back up and running again, but now I have trust issues again with Mercs.&nbsp; Truth be told though, all of the outboards nowadays are just light-years beyond what I knew outboards to be back in the 70s and 80s.&nbsp; Take care of them and they should all last a couple thousand hours.&nbsp; And for most of us, that's a lot of years on the water!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Allen, post: 206794, member: 389"] Times are a changing, I see the 200 HP Verado and Optimax are within 5 lbs of each other now. No way would I go back to a 2-S for five pounds of weight. As far as weight to giddy-up ratio, that's a changing too. There will be 4-S with every bit the snap of a 2-S in the not so distant future, that's where all the R&D money is being spent...not on making 2-S any better. As far as Y vs M, I've run both. Given my d'ruthers...I'd take a Yamaha just about every time. They can all have their problems, but in my memory bank it's been Merc with the systemic issues, especially in the Opti series a few years back. My old(er) Yammie keeps on a purring (granted, it's a 2004 model, so a Merc of the same generation runs the same powerhead), but I just watched a newer and unabused Merc discombobulate on the back of my Toon last year. A little over $9k of Merc warranty to put a new powerhead on got me back up and running again, but now I have trust issues again with Mercs. Truth be told though, all of the outboards nowadays are just light-years beyond what I knew outboards to be back in the 70s and 80s. Take care of them and they should all last a couple thousand hours. And for most of us, that's a lot of years on the water! [/QUOTE]

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