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<blockquote data-quote="deleted member" data-source="post: 377594" data-attributes="member: 816">everyone should wear one.&nbsp; no doubt about that.&nbsp; but, making it a primary offense warranting a stop and subsequent shenanigans is the issue.&nbsp; and no... its not a win win for lawyers or the state... lawyers will get stuck attempting to make an unwinnable argument at their client's request.&nbsp; its not enough to argue the&nbsp; officer was simply mistaken.&nbsp; mistake is an unwinnable argument from the beginning as a reasonable mistake will not get a stop and subsequent search thrown out.&nbsp; so, ya got to argue that the law enforcement officer is literally lying.&nbsp; good luck with that... even with dash cam videos in both cars.&nbsp; bunch of wasted time by admin judges, officers testifying at admin hearings, lawyers making unwinnable arguments at their clients expense and rinse and repeat the same in criminal court.&nbsp; contrary to public misconceptions, 99% lawyers don't enjoy taking $ from clients and then losing.&nbsp; its gut wrenching tbh.&nbsp; its wishful thinking.&nbsp; but, i have a glimmer of hope that judges will become more and more skeptical of officer &quot;mistakes&quot; when there is glaring video evidence to the contrary exists.&nbsp; hopefully, to the point where that argument becomes untenable altogether.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="deleted member, post: 377594, member: 816"] everyone should wear one. no doubt about that. but, making it a primary offense warranting a stop and subsequent shenanigans is the issue. and no... its not a win win for lawyers or the state... lawyers will get stuck attempting to make an unwinnable argument at their client's request. its not enough to argue the officer was simply mistaken. mistake is an unwinnable argument from the beginning as a reasonable mistake will not get a stop and subsequent search thrown out. so, ya got to argue that the law enforcement officer is literally lying. good luck with that... even with dash cam videos in both cars. bunch of wasted time by admin judges, officers testifying at admin hearings, lawyers making unwinnable arguments at their clients expense and rinse and repeat the same in criminal court. contrary to public misconceptions, 99% lawyers don't enjoy taking $ from clients and then losing. its gut wrenching tbh. its wishful thinking. but, i have a glimmer of hope that judges will become more and more skeptical of officer "mistakes" when there is glaring video evidence to the contrary exists. hopefully, to the point where that argument becomes untenable altogether. [/QUOTE]

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