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<blockquote data-quote="Migrator Man" data-source="post: 295728" data-attributes="member: 2369"><p>There are decades of it buried that could prob just dig up.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p>I blame Scott Hennen..... He is a sellout that will take anyone’s side as long as they pay him. He has been propping up wind and ethanol as this great thing but the impact to coal cannot be denied. It’s funny how he wrangles around issues around natural gas, wind, ethanol and coal all which advertise on his show. With coal gone some of the most efficient ethanol will go into the red.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes cheap natural gas has allowed this transition to happen but it is the push of green energy to replace coal with wind that has made natural gas peaking plants necessary. MN mandate for green generation has spelt the end for coal because their utilities can’t buy coal power. PIf you haven’t noticed that replacing coal with NG is not good enough for the greens and don’t want NG make up generation. They want more renewables and storage. MN Power NEEDS a NG plant in Superior WI to cover on days with low renewables to maintain reliable power. The green opposition may block this plant from being built. GRE plant would be profitable if they could run it at 100% without ramping up and down. </p><p></p><p>The big question is where will wind plants be built if ND blocks them here. It is obviously the best place to put them in ND with good reliable wind and proximity to MN. Can they really put them in other states and still make them profitable? I say if MN wants renewables they can put them in their own state.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Migrator Man, post: 295728, member: 2369"] There are decades of it buried that could prob just dig up. [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] I blame Scott Hennen..... He is a sellout that will take anyone’s side as long as they pay him. He has been propping up wind and ethanol as this great thing but the impact to coal cannot be denied. It’s funny how he wrangles around issues around natural gas, wind, ethanol and coal all which advertise on his show. With coal gone some of the most efficient ethanol will go into the red. [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] Yes cheap natural gas has allowed this transition to happen but it is the push of green energy to replace coal with wind that has made natural gas peaking plants necessary. MN mandate for green generation has spelt the end for coal because their utilities can’t buy coal power. PIf you haven’t noticed that replacing coal with NG is not good enough for the greens and don’t want NG make up generation. They want more renewables and storage. MN Power NEEDS a NG plant in Superior WI to cover on days with low renewables to maintain reliable power. The green opposition may block this plant from being built. GRE plant would be profitable if they could run it at 100% without ramping up and down. The big question is where will wind plants be built if ND blocks them here. It is obviously the best place to put them in ND with good reliable wind and proximity to MN. Can they really put them in other states and still make them profitable? I say if MN wants renewables they can put them in their own state. [/QUOTE]
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