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<blockquote data-quote="Allen" data-source="post: 297150" data-attributes="member: 389"><p>Anyone from MN that would care to discuss their state's antics towards ND, feel free to step up.</p><p></p><p>1. ND, after having seen too many rich Twin Cities hunters leasing sloughs in the flight path, implemented some NR waterfowl opportunities. I might add, the limits far exceeded the existing number of NR hunters, but it was politically well accepted even if it meant nothing in the real world. MN immediately sued ND over its NR hunting regulations saying they were too restrictive. All the while, MN had bear, moose, and sturgeon restrictions on ND outdoor enthusiasts. Those are different though...fugging hypocrites.</p><p></p><p>2. ND side of the Red River Valley (especially Farhole and GF) need a guaranteed water supply in the event of another dirty 30's style of drought. ND has for years been chasing the dream of plumbing ND with quality drinking and industrial water from the Missouri River, as promised by the feds for hosting Garrison Dam and upper Oahe from way back in the original Pick-Sloan project. MN knows full and well the ONLY advantage they have to siting a water intensive industrial plant (ethanol, sugar beets, etc) on their side of the RRV is water supply and has fought tooth and nail with extremely poor scientific integrity to prevent ND water supplies from reaching Valley City, Fargo, and Grand Forks. All because they fear the businesses will continue to be built on the ND side of the Red River. They even went so far as to make the Bureau of Reclamation study drought water supplies from MN (groundwater and Lake of the Woods) knowing they would never politically sign off on supplying the industries that ND's population worked at in any "future drought". Note, industries who are going to spend millions of dollars on a water intensive activity cannot receive investor support without some kind of guarantee that water will be available during the dry times. This is why ND has some of the finest hydrologists in the country on staff within the ND State Water Commission. They need to very accurately assess and permit water supplies.</p><p></p><p>3. Look up and down the ND/MN border at the paired cities. GF/EGF, Fargo/Moorhead, Wahpeton/Breckinridge. What do they all have in common? The people have spoken, they prefer to live in and under ND rules, regulations, and tax structure. MN knows the one ace-in-the-hole they have is water supply because it can always be plumbed in from the lakes region. So MN uses this as an economic weapon against ND each and every single fugging time they can. So they have again sued ND under environmental laws to prevent ND citizens from receiving drinking water.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, whoever neg rep'd me for not liking MN, fuck you and the piece of shit state you call home. You want me to like MN? Put up a little resistance to their un-neighborly policies. We don't have these issues with SD and MT.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Allen, post: 297150, member: 389"] Anyone from MN that would care to discuss their state's antics towards ND, feel free to step up. 1. ND, after having seen too many rich Twin Cities hunters leasing sloughs in the flight path, implemented some NR waterfowl opportunities. I might add, the limits far exceeded the existing number of NR hunters, but it was politically well accepted even if it meant nothing in the real world. MN immediately sued ND over its NR hunting regulations saying they were too restrictive. All the while, MN had bear, moose, and sturgeon restrictions on ND outdoor enthusiasts. Those are different though...fugging hypocrites. 2. ND side of the Red River Valley (especially Farhole and GF) need a guaranteed water supply in the event of another dirty 30's style of drought. ND has for years been chasing the dream of plumbing ND with quality drinking and industrial water from the Missouri River, as promised by the feds for hosting Garrison Dam and upper Oahe from way back in the original Pick-Sloan project. MN knows full and well the ONLY advantage they have to siting a water intensive industrial plant (ethanol, sugar beets, etc) on their side of the RRV is water supply and has fought tooth and nail with extremely poor scientific integrity to prevent ND water supplies from reaching Valley City, Fargo, and Grand Forks. All because they fear the businesses will continue to be built on the ND side of the Red River. They even went so far as to make the Bureau of Reclamation study drought water supplies from MN (groundwater and Lake of the Woods) knowing they would never politically sign off on supplying the industries that ND's population worked at in any "future drought". Note, industries who are going to spend millions of dollars on a water intensive activity cannot receive investor support without some kind of guarantee that water will be available during the dry times. This is why ND has some of the finest hydrologists in the country on staff within the ND State Water Commission. They need to very accurately assess and permit water supplies. 3. Look up and down the ND/MN border at the paired cities. GF/EGF, Fargo/Moorhead, Wahpeton/Breckinridge. What do they all have in common? The people have spoken, they prefer to live in and under ND rules, regulations, and tax structure. MN knows the one ace-in-the-hole they have is water supply because it can always be plumbed in from the lakes region. So MN uses this as an economic weapon against ND each and every single fugging time they can. So they have again sued ND under environmental laws to prevent ND citizens from receiving drinking water. Yeah, whoever neg rep'd me for not liking MN, fuck you and the piece of shit state you call home. You want me to like MN? Put up a little resistance to their un-neighborly policies. We don't have these issues with SD and MT. [/QUOTE]
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