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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 93724" data-attributes="member: 373">Ah, so now when govt over reach impacts you it is important enough to over look consequences to others. But yet when govt over reach impacts others,.........well 72 pages explained your views there. I actually  get people who have family or friends that have been denied the benefits of medical pot having the view you do. But there are people on here that want to legalize recreational use so they can smoke a bowl with their old college buddy and not have to get whacked by the cops for doing it. Hey I get that too. But when those people try to deny the very real consequences of legalization that is where I take exception. Stop and think about it. The candy cigarette example was not simple sarcasm. We have passed laws making it illegal to advertise cigarettes in manners that attract children to smoking for a reason, and yet states like Colorado appear to have no problem making candied pot and gummi bear weed. And people think that is NOT going to find it's way into grade schools and junior highs? There are consequences that will impact society in non positive ways. Cigarettes, booze do....why do people think pot will be any different? Like I said there are negatives with keeping it illegal but when people try to claim it is no big deal, or even a benefit to society to legalize it, that is simply bullshit. The one link from law enforcement had a representative of law enforcement saying they never thought recreational usage would pass and be made legal. So those that wish to dismiss incrementalism are for some reason turning a blind eye to what is happening. Do they really think these groups will not use pot legalization to give credibility to their arguments? <a href="https://www.dinafem.org/en/blog/cannabis-marijuana-legalization-groups/" target="_blank">https://www.dinafem.org/en/blog/cannabis-marijuana-legalization-groups/</a>"10 Most Influential Legalization Groups             There are many organizations  who fight the unreasonable 'War on Drugs'. Most of them are active on a  national level and some of them are aiming for sensible drug policy on  an international scale. Here's our list with the most influential  legalization groups out there. All these groups really make a difference  and they need and deserve all the support they can get."<a href="http://www.npr.org/2012/11/15/165211562/should-we-legalize-drugs" target="_blank">http://www.npr.org/2012/11/15/165211562/should-we-legalize-drugs</a>"Before the debate, the audience voted 45 percent in favor of the motion  "Legalize Drugs," with 23 percent opposed and 32 percent undecided.  After hearing from both sides, those who supported the motion still won  out: 58 percent to 30 percent."<a href="http://www.leap.cc/about/why-legalize-drugs/" target="_blank">http://www.leap.cc/about/why-legalize-drugs/</a>"« Previous PageWe believe that drug prohibition is the true cause of much of the  social and personal  damage that has historically been attributed to  drug use. It is prohibition that makes these drugs so valuable –  while  giving criminals a monopoly over their supply. Driven by the huge  profits from this monopoly, criminal gangs bribe and kill each other,  law enforcers, and children. Their trade is unregulated and they are,  therefore, beyond our control.History has shown that drug prohibition reduces neither use nor  abuse. After a rapist is arrested, there are fewer rapes. After a drug  dealer is arrested, however, neither the supply nor the demand for drugs  is seriously changed. The arrest merely creates a job opening for an  endless stream of drug entrepreneurs who will take huge risks for the  sake of the enormous profits created by prohibition. Prohibition costs  taxpayers tens of billions of dollars every year, yet 40 years and some  40 million arrests later, drugs are cheaper, more potent and far more  widely used than at the beginning of this futile crusade.We believe that by eliminating prohibition of all drugs for adults  and establishing appropriate regulation and standards for distribution  and use, law enforcement could  focus  more on crimes of violence, such  as rape, aggravated assault, child abuse and murder, making our  communities much safer. We believe that sending parents to prison for  non-violent personal drug use destroys families. We believe that in a  regulated and controlled environment, drugs will be safer for adult use  and less accessible to our children. And we believe that by placing drug  abuse in the hands of medical professionals instead of the criminal  justice system, we will reduce rates of addiction and overdose deaths.   "Sound familiar?  That is from law enforcement people wanting to legalize all drugs.</blockquote>

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